Sounds like a blend between Pier Village and Red Bank.
I used to love Red Bank when it felt like mainstreet USA. Now it feels like an
upscale mall
that I can't afford to shop in. Mainstreet Disney.
Pier Village is one of the worst examples of modern American architecture that
i've ever
seen.
Another example is the new Tinton Falls municipal complex that you can see just
off of the
parkway. To me, it looks like an oversized version of the little houses from a
Monopoly
game, molded, boring, boxey.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gabrielle,
>
> you hit it right on the head. I feel the same way about the
> pretentious pricks that are mobbing the downtown and other parts of
> town. They have no respect. I have to live with it everyday (I live
> downtown). I'm sad to say that as more and more high end businesses
> move into town, the unique character of the city will go the way of
> the dodo. It's already happening. Pretty soon we'll have a high
> end, "upscale" (I'm so sick of that word) beachfront where only the
> rich are welcome. It's a sad but true reality, one that unfortunately
> cannot be stopped so long as greed over substance and creativity
> rules the city. I really don't think there is a developer out there
> that would be right for the job. They all have the same agenda, the
> bottomline. Everyone complains about Asbury Partners (yes they do
> suck) but what they don't realize is that any other developer would
> do the same things they're doing. I'm not convinced Madison Marquette
> is the answer. They've been heard saying (my source is rock solid) to
> a boardwalk vendor that they are looking for Borgata on the beach,
> with fake palm trees in the sand and cocktail waitress serving drinks
> to people on the beach. They've also been heard saying they want the
> AP beachfront to be like Pier Village in Long Branch. Not a good
> sign.
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" <gabrielleobre@> wrote:
> >
> > thanks for your comments, I appreciate your experience here. I am
> > truly madly and deeply in love with the place. That doesn't mean I
> > think everything here is wonderful. We have serious race issues and
> > an influx of superficial wealth that disturbs me. I have on two
> > occasions witnessed police (state and local) behaving toward black
> men
> > in a way I thought was no longer possible. The one with the state
> > cops led me to deep sobbing.
> >
> > a deeply complex issue, i know. one that requires intense
> > sensitivity. A sensitivity I have yet to see any semblance of on
> the
> > boards or council. Keady tries but he is a tiny minority. The rest
> > seem like whores to greed and power, genuinely and obviously annoyed
> > by citizens. They have lost all sense of service.
> >
> > I am also deeply disturbed by the too close ties of the real estate
> > agents and those in power. Truly feel that some are blatantly using
> > their position for personal gain. very dangerous and very ugly.
> >
> >
> > i have never been disturbed by homeless people, don't feel dumped on
> > in the least. I would rather see a homeless person and have them
> ask
> > me for a dollar than a chick in gucci sunglasses and louis vuitton
> bag
> > get out of a hummer smelling like chemicals (perfume and exhaust).
> > but thats me...gracias again for you insight.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "2fine4u" <sharon_b283@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd have to agree, not only because you're right, but it's the
> right
> > > thing to do. If I'd attend a zoning meeting now, I wouldn't know
> > > anyone on the board. Seems that when I served, there were decent
> > > people, on it, that I learned to love as friends and came to
> > > understand. All, had been residents, long before I happened on
> the
> > > scene.
> > >
> > > I lived over in Neptune for over 20 years, heard all the bad stuff
> > > about AP and didn't believe a word of it, due to the rivalry, that
> > > exists, between the two towns, an athletic rivalry, who
> gets "bragging
> > > rights", for the year, etc. Neptune, could never be Asbury, no
> matter
> > > how hard they tried, back in those days, (70's-80's), enjoyed
> seeing
> > > my kids whip, get whipped and the back and forth, of who was
> better.
> > >
> > > In the 90's, the mayor was recalled and the Asbury United group,
> took
> > > over, briefly; very briefly. They were hounded by the group in
> power
> > > now, my opinion, and what you see now, is what you get! Better?
> I
> > > wonder! Seems to me, that whoever gets in, the title and the
> > > so-called power, goes to their heads! Still, my opinion!
> > >
> > > They are basically good people, seem to know what needs to be
> done,
> > > but are so taken by quasi-solutions, to decades long problems,
> seem to
> > > overwhelm and question their judgement! Seems every group that
> comes
> > > along, say they have the answers to AP's, long in the struggle
> > > problems, since the riots of July 1970.
> > >
> > > It all hinged on race, who was the most powerful group here, but
> don't
> > > address the causes of such problems, which STILL exist!
> Substandard
> > > housing and education for the majority, which is Black and mostly
> > poor.
> > >
> > > Homes, run mostly by single parents, who are no more than kids
> > > themselves, or drug and substance dependent. When I attended the
> > > Community College, in the early 70's, I met many of the
> individuals,
> > > pegged as the "ones most likely NOT to succeed"! They all had the
> same
> > > dreams and aspirations as ANY American, but were ill-prepared to
> get
> > > ahead, due to stereotyping and discrimination.
> > >
> > > I give the current group bouquets, when something is done in
> favor of
> > > our citizens and the same brickbats, as any of the other posters,
> give
> > > here! I'll say this for Jersey in general; "If you can make it
> here,
> > > everyplace else, is a piece of cake"! The residents here are
> > > wonderful, caring and concerned about the quality of life here and
> > > what, if anything, can be done to remedy street crime, drug use
> and
> > > yes, corruption!
> > >
> > > Do we need a homeless shelter here? First off, I'd say no,
> because of
> > > the way everone DUMPS on Asbury Park, in general! As a Christian
> and
> > > a Roman Catholic, I say YES, because it's the way Christ taught
> me; to
> > > tend to the poor and the LEAST of His brethren! Is their the
> Center
> > > for Aids? Yes! Is there a Food Program in AP, YES! Done with
> OUR
> > > tax dollars and comes to us in the form of Block Grants, etc.,
> through
> > > local churches.
> > >
> > > Now, I believe in SEPARATION between Church and State! In other
> > > words, I don't think a poor Jewish person, should have to say the
> Hail
> > > Mary, to get a piece of bread, that if he had a job and home,
> he'd get
> > > himself! Nor do I believe a Catholic should have to sing "Swing
> Low"
> > > either! It is what it is! I believe no person should have to
> get on
> > > a soapbox and echo the President's philosophy either!
> > >
> > > My generation "Questioned Authority", still does and don't believe
> > > that God inspired Bush, to do anything! I can go on and on, but
> you
> > > get the picture. Live and LET live, is my philosphy! If someone
> > > wants to marry a statue of Buddha, who am I? To my Gay
> Friends, "God
> > > Loves You and So Do I"! Amen!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "evosap" <gabrielleobre@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for posting this. Loved Springsteen when I was 11.
> Moved
> > > > through a stage of being over it. Springsteen fans turned me
> off him,
> > > > they seem to love the music but don't get the message. Then
> I have
> > > > had to deal with him and all the groupies here, in this
> luscious town
> > > > I live in. Forced to get off my bike in CH!
> > > >
> > > > Drivin to Freehold one day I heard a great song and realized it
> was
> > > > him. I would like to suggest that he is not only criticizing
> the Bush
> > > > admin (easy to do) but perhaps the mediocrity we are all a
> little
> > > > guilty of. Spend some time in the council chambers here in
> asbury and
> > > > you will know what I am talking about. Particularly the zoning
> board
> > > > hacks. And then there is the SUFA folk, all bile and
> narcissism. The
> > > > chairman of zoning takes the cake. Queen fool. Keady is the
> only one
> > > > who gets that its about service. The rest are in it for
> themselves.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anybody in love out there? I am. I hope you are.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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