collecting what?  They have abatements and our taxes just went up 
more than 150%.  It is an economic failure.
KB

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> All have the right to their opinion.  I just do find it fair to say 
it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled 
and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed.  I am not 
saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and 
created a safe venue.  And the city of Long Branch is collecting on 
it.  
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> 
> Hinge,
> 
> 
> You're far from alone in hating it.   Success or not, many people 
think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something 
right next to the beach.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:
> 
> 
> I guess it's a matter of taste.
> I hate it with a passion.
> I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
> And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point 
close to my heart.
> In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of 
architecture becomes a 
> destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on 
without an overwhelming 
> ugly building to look at.
> And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that 
existed long before Pier 
> Village.
> In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong 
values.
> I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
> But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to 
shop when i'm bored.
> I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <nnjallans1@> 
wrote:
> >
> > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, 
shop etc. The design is not 
> perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say 
that about what was there 
> before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man 
not agree with retail on
> the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to 
happen.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Hinge <hinge98@>
> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
> > 
> > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> > I loved it.
> > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really 
friendly. Not overly friendly, 
> friendly 
> > with dignity.
> > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 
people.
> > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to 
perfection.
> > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. 
> > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved 
it. Interestingly, they 
> all 
> > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said 
nothing.
> > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three 
agreed that while Red 
> Bank 
> > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the 
restaraunts too expensive, 
> and the 
> > lack of parking annoying.
> > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, 
and we all agreed that 
> it's the 
> > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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