collecting what? They have abatements and our taxes just went up more than 150%. It is an economic failure. KB
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:45:00 AM > Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > Hinge, > > > You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach. > > > > > > > On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote: > > > I guess it's a matter of taste. > I hate it with a passion. > I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible. > And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. > In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a > destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming > ugly building to look at. > And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier > Village. > In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values. > I will never view a shopping center as a destination. > But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored. > I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <nnjallans1@> wrote: > > > > Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not > perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there > before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on > the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Hinge <hinge98@> > > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review > > > > So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time. > > I loved it. > > The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly, > friendly > > with dignity. > > Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool. > > The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections. > > We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection. > > For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent. > > Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too. > > Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they > all > > began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red > Bank > > looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive, > and the > > lack of parking annoying. > > When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that > it's the > > worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. > http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/