The Cole bombing happened during the Clinton Adminsitration. No wonder Kerry lost the election.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can't believe I have to remind you... > > "KERREY: It worries me. And I wanted to make that declaration. You > needn't comment on it, but as I said, I'm not going to have an > opportunity to talk to you this closely. > And I wanted to tell you that I think the military operations are > dangerously off track. And it's largely a U.S. Army -- 125,000 out of > 145,000 -- largely a Christian army in a Muslim nation. So I take > that on board for what it's worth. > > Let me ask you, first of all, a question that's been a concern for me > from the first day I came on the commission, and that is the > relationship of our executive director to you. > > Let me just ask you directly, and you can just give me -- keep it > relatively short, but I wanted to get it on the record. > > Since he was an expert on terrorism, did you ask Philip Zelikow any > questions about terrorism during transition, since he was the second > person carded in the national security office and had considerable > expertise? > > RICE: Philip and I had numerous conversations about the issues that > we were facing. Philip, as you know, had worked in the campaign and > helped with the transition plans, so yes. > > KERREY: Yes, you did talk to him about terrorism? > > RICE: We talked -- Philip and I over a period of -- you know, we had > worked closely together as academics... > > KERREY: During the transition, did you instruct him to do anything on > terrorism? > > RICE: Oh, to do anything on terrorism? > > KERREY: Yes. > > RICE: To help us think about the structure of the terrorism -- Dick > Clarke's operations, yes. > > KERREY: You've used the phrase a number of times, and I'm hoping with > my question to disabuse you of using it in the future. > > You said the president was tired of swatting flies. > > KERREY: Can you tell me one example where the president swatted a fly > when it came to al Qaeda prior to 9/11? > > RICE: I think what the president was speaking to was... > > KERREY: No, no. What fly had he swatted? > > RICE: Well, the disruptions abroad was what he was really focusing on... > > KERREY: No, no... > > RICE: ... when the CIA would go after Abu Zubaydah... > > KERREY: He hadn't swatted... > > RICE: ... or go after this guy... > > KERREY: Dr. Rice, we didn't... > > RICE: That was what was meant. > > KERREY: We only swatted a fly once on the 20th of August 1998. We > didn't swat any flies afterwards. How the hell could he be tired? > > RICE: We swatted at -- I think he felt that what the agency was doing > was going after individual terrorists here and there, and that's what > he meant by swatting flies. It was simply a figure of speech. > > KERREY: Well, I think it's an unfortunate figure of speech because I > think, especially after the attack on the Cole on the 12th of > October, 2000, it would not have been swatting a fly. It would not > have been -- we did not need to wait to get a strategic plan. > > Dick Clarke had in his memo on the 20th of January overt military > operations. He turned that memo around in 24 hours, Dr. Clarke. There > were a lot of plans in place in the Clinton administration -- > military plans in the Clinton administration. > > In fact, since we're in the mood to declassify stuff, there was -- he > included in his January 25 memo two appendices -- Appendix A: > "Strategy for the elimination of the jihadist threat of al Qaeda," > Appendix B: "Political military plan for al Qaeda." > > So I just -- why didn't we respond to the Cole? > > RICE: Well, we... > > KERREY: Why didn't we swat that fly?" > > > > > > On Dec 27, 2007, at 5:42 PM, justifiedright wrote: > > > Can't believe I have to remind you... > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2cfup9 > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <sharon_b283@> wrote: > > > > > > The threat of "Islamofascists", justifies one race taking over the > > > country of the natives. See Eastern Europeans and Arab Jews, > > taking > > > over Palestine, renaming the country Israel and demonizing the > > > Palestinians, as Islamic Fascists! The US, turns its' head the > > other > > > way and allows, the bulldozing of homes, the raping of women and > > > emasculation of Arab men! > > > > > > In America, same deal! Europeans occupy and take over a country, > > > where the natives are herded into reservations. Africans are > > brought > > > to this country as chattel, bought and sold, like cattle, etc. The > > > South grows cotton, tobacco and refines sugar, but the industrial > > east > > > builds the ships, sells the insurance to the slave owners, insuring > > > that "their" property, if lost will be paid in premiums, for their > > > loss! Wall Street, is as much to blame for perpetuating the > > system of > > > slavery, as the South. It isn't until 100 years after the signing > > of > > > the Emancipation, that the descendants of said slaves, rise up and > > > begin the biggest movement since the revolution. > > > > > > Lifelong Democrats, switch to being Republicans and 40 years later, > > > you have "charter" schools, siphoning off funds, from the so- called > > > "public" schools and parents are given "vouchers", to have their > > kids > > > attend any school they want, like a "de-facto", back to > > segregation, > > > "legally"! Whatever any minority group or union that "bargains > > for", > > > their members, the government, which is anti-union and > > > anti-integration, will find a way to un-do the progress, of those > > who > > > want to live in a United States, where inclusion is the "norm"! > > The > > > same Neo-Cons, deride Gays, Trans-Sexuals and Lesbains, from having > > > inclusion into American Society, as the law-abiding citizens, they > > > are! While many states, have written laws, granting Gays, civil > > > unions, I believe they should be granted the "right to marry" and > > have > > > all the priviledges of married people! > > > > > > I say that to say this. If you vote Republican, you are voting > > > against your OWN best interest! So keep on voting for them and see > > > what you get! Little boys, who behind closed doors, engage in the > > > SAME pleasures, that they want to DENY YOU! See the Congressional > > > Pages scandal, the comgressmen, who engage in affairs with single > > > women in their employ; one wound up dead in Rock Creek Park! One > > had > > > a President impeached! The senator, who solicits sex in airport > > > bathrooms. The lobbyists scandals, that resulted in Tom DeLays > > > resignation, the Enron debacle, along with outing a known CIA > > > operative and on and on! The best hypocrite, I can call to mind is > > > Newt Gingrich, who was impeaching Clinton, whole having an affair > > with > > > one of his underlings, while his wife was battling cancer! They > > just > > > hate Democrats, with a vengeance! This is the "other" un-Civil > > War, > > > going on in Washington, now! > > > > > > Brought to you by fundamentalist christians, espousing "family > > > values", when nothing could be further from the truth! > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > > > <jerseyshorejohn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > never mind. i found it: > > > > > > > > "The latest big lie unveiled by Washington's neoconservatives > > are the > > > > poisonous terms, "Islamo-Fascists" and "Islamic Fascists." They > > are > > > > the new, hot buzzwords among America's far right and Christian > > > > fundamentalists. > > > > President George W. Bush made a point last week of using > > > > "Islamofacists" when recently speaking of Hezbullah and Hamas > > both, > > > > by the way, democratically elected parties. A Canadian > > government > > > > minister from the Conservative Party compared Lebanon's > > Hezbullah to > > > > Nazi Germany. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
