I'll chime in on the downtown... It seems to also be a work-in-
progress... BUT it is working and does look and feel like a downtown.

>From what I know it was not kicked off as a redevelopment it was 
started by a few ballsy guys with money that saw the opportunity.

Private enterprise at work, completely different than the waterfront -
 a government directed and managed mess.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jandlinap" <jandlinap@> wrote:
> >
> >...and put the local effort into 
> > downtown... and let the boys with the big money play with the 
boardwalk
> >
> 
> That big money also plays a vital role in the rest of the downtown 
and
> the rest of the city. job creation, major events (which in turn role
> over  or could, into downtown).
> 
> The beach and boardwalk are like having a convention center or a
> ballfield. The downtown has to play off of that AND what it can do 
for
> itself. The city as a whole has to control the image and get past we
> vs them. Throughout history the downtown and boardwalk always 
wondered
> what the other was up to. 
> 
> MM marketing plans and those of their merchants may or may not 
benfit
> the downtown or it will. The people they draw and how they maintain
> their businesses will have (does have) a direct impact on the
> impression on the rest of the city. The downtown leaves an 
impression
> as does main street, memorial drive, asbury ave and springwood and
> every other street in the city.
> 
> The best way to see what I mean is to hop on a bike, your feet or if
> you have to, a car and drive EVERY street in Asbury.
> 
> PS, Asbury Park is also on the west side of the tracks, runs down
> Asbury Ave to Ridge. It's the "southwest".
>



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