I consider this from you, drivel...
> > You complain and make judgements about timelines. Don't knock
> > someone who is actually doing something when you have the
>> audacity to be lazy enough to judge a whole community by what is
>> typed on a board by the same 15 people.
So you know about the Memorial Day promise also - Thats great.
Nice that you don't mind it didn't happen, are you an "insider" (there)?
I was very disappointed because that's what I came to see because
that's what was publicized. You can understand that - right?
I really think manipulating the media and lying is a cheap shot
that only hurts AP in the long run. Surprising that you put up with
it and condone it.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dsher4" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> first of all, i'd like an example of my drivel?
>
> second of all, i was referring to your judgement of an entire town by
> what is posted by 15 people on an internet message board.
>
> Third, i have been an advocate of not having political discussions on
> this board.
>
> Fourth, and this one is important - Memorial day for completion was
> never a possibility. We all knew that and discussed it when that was
> announced during the winter. It was physically impossible to
> complete in that timeframe. It was done to create a buzz about the
> town to outsiders and to force the hand of the local government to
> act in a business like fashion and not a political fashion (I'm not
> sure if you know about the 100k dollars Madison marquette had in
> escrow to expedite meetings, decisions, approvals etc.. that the town
> would have to deal with due to overtime to town employees). It was
> probably also done so that everyone was aware of how fast the
> developers wanted to move and they wouldn't tolerate "the kickbacks"
> and under the table payments that have gone on in this town and
> others in Jersey for generations.
>
> I was not lied to by Madison Marquette, they spent a boatload of
> money this summer to make things better. I am not going to be a
> maniac over a date that was meant to spark enthusiasm and get the
> wheels in motion.
>
> We also live in a town that has drugs and gangs, so much for your
> fantasyland. We came here to hopefully be a part of something that
> improves. Why don't you do the same or go spread your cheer in
> another town.
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "New Beetoap" <newbeetoap@>
> wrote:
> >
> > What is wrong with you ? I did go downtown, I did shop, I did enjoy
> the boards and
> > beach. I had a good time, I told you (all) that previously.
> >
> > None of that good experience has anything to do with my
> observations that AP just did
> > not live up to advertised expectations. Is that not clear??
> >
> > The media reported that the beach would be finished by Memorial
> day - That was what
> > the developer himself said. I didn't make the promise. I asume from
> your past posts that
> > you are a local. Doesn't it concern you that you are being lied to?
> Doesn't it concern you
> > that visitors come and go somewhat surprised and disappointed with
> the lack of
> > completion ?
> >
> > What is wrong with you that you write such unrelated and
> nonsensical drivel? The
> > developer made promises, the media and town made promises, I know
> what i hear, see
> > and read. Seems that you (all) live in a fantasy land where nothing
> can be amiss.
> >
> > And, yes this board is a reflection of the people is town. I bet
> most of the regulars who
> > post are closely related to AP happenings. Too close to the fire I
> guess to be open
> > minded to outsiders observations.
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dsher4" <dsher4@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey New Bee, YOU WAKE UP
> > >
> > > If you think that you can judge the character of a place or its
> > > people by what is typed on a board, you are dillusional. Go hang
> > > out downtown and get a bite to eat at some of the nice
> restaurants
> > > or shop in the eclectic stores on Cookman.
> > >
> > > Enjoy the beautiful beach and boardwalk.
> > >
> > > Revel in the diversity of people and get to know them face to
> face.
> > > Until you do i would rather you reserve judgement.
> > >
> > > You complain and make judgements about timelines. Don't knock
> > > someone who is actually doing something when you have the
> audacity
> > > to be lazy enough to judge a whole community by what is typed on
> a
> > > board by the same 15 people.
> > >
> > > Dan S.
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "New Beetoap" <newbeetoap@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thank God Its Over....
> > > >
> > > > What a huge huge bad impression the posts on this board have
> made.
> > > > I cant believe the crap that came from some of you. Completely
> > > changed
> > > > my impression of the caliber of people in AP. No wonder AP has
> been
> > > > sooo messed up for sooo long.
> > > >
> > > > OK, so I'm a outsider, My opinion doesn't count... Right? Wake
> up,
> > > > this is a publicly readable board and if you think the past
> weeks
> > > have
> > > > made a good impression and will encourage people to visit AP
> you
> > > are
> > > > out of your minds.
> > > >
> > > > I turned some friends on to the group thinking they could back
> me
> > > up
> > > > about the importance of visual impressions and the delivering
> what
> > > was
> > > > promised. WoW... did they get a wakeup reading all that crap.
> > > >
> > > > They, and I'm sure many lurkers, or just people who got here by
> > > google
> > > > are shocked by the nastiness and will not even think of
> visiting
> > > now.
> > > >
> > > > Does it matter? Is the beach done yet? ..... Lets see, it was
> > > supposed
> > > > to be last Memorial day.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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