Mario, I am honestly FOR the continuation of the Columbus Day Celebration, in spite of what I know. When I was learning Spanish in high school, Columbus was thought of as a "hero"! Columbus was an Italian in the employ of the Spanish Government, under Queen Isabella and Ferdinand. Another Italian of note, was Napoleon Bonaparte, who was from Corsica. The Fascist despot from WWII was Mussolini, who imagined himself, a King. All Italian, all famous in their own way.
It has been said, that the Italians ran Asbury Park for decades. In some ways, they still do! Whatever it is that any group wants to celebrate, that is important to them, is fine with me. For those who don't agree with you, that's their perogative! I'm okay with it. If Kwanzaa is being celebrated with private donations, so what! I celebrate all 3 Holidays, Hannukah, Christmas and Kwanzaa. I have a Menorah, because before I became a Christian, we were Jews, just as Jesus was. Kwanzaa is a personal celebration of what it means to be Black and to be proud of my Heritage. I agree with John Loffredo's assessment of Celebrating Columbus. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Remeber Sharon I support the City's Kwanzaa celebration. > > I'm just trying to expose those who support it, but oppose Columbus > Day and Christmas celebrations. > > What they do in AP with Christmas, having a celebration with all the > accouterments of Christmas, but then changing the name, is highly > insulting to my culture and faith. > > Imagine having a Kwanzaa celebration but refusing to call it Kwanzaa > so as not to insult white people. How highly insulting it would be > to change the name. > > That's precisely what Asbury Park does with Christmas. > > If you don't wish to celebrate, don't. To change the name as if the > mere mention of Christ is bad couldn't be more insulting. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <sharon_b283@> > wrote: > > > > After reading the memo twice, I gather this letter was sent to local > > businesses. I've considered asking for donations from my group and > > still will, since it benefits the community. What do you get from > > this appeal? Seems the City is just offering a "location" to have > > said celebration and get "credit" for it! > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > I've uploaded a new file to the Group. Find it here: > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/62shsz > > > > > > If anyone can't open it, it is City Letterhead sent to businesses > > > about taking part in the City's Kwanzaa celebration, sent from > our > > > official "Kwanzaa Celebration Coordinator." > > > > > > Love to hear your thoughts on this: > > > > > > Is it an impermissible government expenditure for violating the > > > establishment clause? > > > > > > > > > Is it a permissible expenditure in furtherance of supporting a > > > cultural holiday? > > > > > > > > > Lots of other questions can be presented. > > > > > > Would love to get councilman Keady's thoughts on it all. > > > > > > I hope for a well reasoned and lively discussion with no > > > personalizing. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
