JR - You missed the councilman's question. Do you have any facts to back up your question????
"Do you also opposed to public resources spent on the Pride Parade?" Your grammar is a bit off here, but I get your point. As far as I recall, there were not public resources spent on the Pride Parade, it was an event that was financed by a non-profit entity and they applied for permits the same as any other outside group would. Do you have facts to the contrary? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jwkeady" <james.keady@> wrote: > > > Mr. Deseno, > > > > I never ceases to amaze me how someone like yourself, who makes > >their > > living in a profession that demands factual basis for argument, has > > such a disdain for accurate and truthful statements. > > Mr. Keady, must you start off personalizing? > > Speaking of, I note that twice you remark about my grammar in the > post below. I've said many times I post here for leisure. I have > jobs where grammar and spelling are important, and this isn't one of > them. > > Also when I come across someone not to my own standard for grammar, > never would I take him or her to task for it in public. I treat > people with dignity and respect. > > Since it appears important to you though, should you ever wish to > engage in a contest where proper grammar in writing is the score, > just let me know when and where the game begins. > > Now on to substance. > > You said this: > > > You wrote: > > > > "So you don't think the City should expend any money on cultural > > events." > > > > I never said this. Please go back to my previous email and > >document > > where I made this statement. I was clear about religious and > pseudo- > > religious events. I also was clear about why I took issue with a > > specific cultural event, Columbus Day. > > Oh I see, Mr. Keady. You hide your objection to Kwanzaa on "quasi- > religious." So you disagree with many on this board (as well as Ron > Karenga's Kwanzaa website) that it is neither religious nor a > replacement for religion. > > Fear not though - the folks on this board who see you in Messiah- like > fashion will not score their disagreement against you. They will > just use it as an excuse to rail at me at the mere thought of having > to disagree with you. > > Religious vs Cultural aside, I understand you to stand against he > City's expenditure of funds for Kwanzaa. > > As I understand you, the reason you go public on the dais against > Columbus Day and not Kwanzaa is that you feel the full story about > Columbus is not told. You think of him poorly. > > Let's put aside that I've alerted you to all the "bad" information we > have about Columbus came from his arch-rival, De Bobadilla, whose > claims were debunked back in his own time (yet resurrected today by > those who wish American history was bad). We can argue that again > next October. > > Right now I'm interested in your excuse for bashing just my culture > as opposed to others. > > You say it is because we don't teach the bad parts of Columbus. > > Well, Ron Karenga the founder of Kwanzaa, was convicted of kidnapping > and torturing two minority women, beating them with cords, putting > hot irons in their mouths and making them drink detergent. A > shocking display of misogyny, cowardice, power, lack of compassion > and inhumane action (WWJD?). > > If your excuse for railing against Columbus each year is we should > include his bad story in our Columbus celebration, why do you not > rail with equal vigor that we include Dr. Karenga's horribleness in > the Kwanzaa celebration? > > Please tell me you have some legitimate excuse to clear up this > glaringly hypocritical position? > > > > Oh by the way - the Catholic Church financed much of Columbus' trip. > Did you rail against the church when we were trying to become a > Deacon? > > > > > As I shared in my earlier email, I do not support the City's > > expending of any tax-dollars on Christmas, so, your above question > >to > > me is moot. > > > Then what about your thoughts on the private entity, the Chamber, > making a decision to excise the name "Christmas" from their > celebration while still using trees with lights, stars, wrapped > presents and Santa Claus? > > Do you support the co-opting of culture and changing its name? > > > > On a more personal level, as a fellow Christian, I do not think > >that > > we need the State to edify (by celebrating Christmas) our counter- > > cultural commitments to following the "Good News" of a radical, > > itinerant preacher from Galilee (Jesus). When it comes to this, I > > think the sage advice of St. Francis of Assisi is worthy of > > consideration. Francis said, "Preach the Gospel at all times and > > when necessary use words." > > > I seem to recall denying Jesus 3 times before the cock crows being a > bad thing too. > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/