Mark, I think (and I don't know for sure) that the idea is to get lighting that is for safety AND all the good things Werner knows about. Like someone else mentioned it is probably past that point, but there are places and people all over the place doing creative and visionary things. Werner know about them.
Do you really feel that unsafe here? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "mark07712" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Until the crime goes down in AP, I say Light Up the City! I know > when I park in the lots; I try and park under the brightest light. > Bright lights make me feel safe when I can see who/what is lurking > around. Werner you can say all evidence points to this not being > true, but it is how I feel. I avoid parking on dark streets. Asbury > just isn't there yet to dim the lights. And trust me I like dim > lights; I tried getting a dimmer for my fridge once. However, the > Berkley one is crazy. When I saw that thing lit up, I walked down to > the beach to see what was going on. Maybe it's another marketing > ploy to get people to the beachfront? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Pitzer" <hinge98@> wrote: > > > > How about the absurd amount of electricity the city is using while > lighting areas that aren't > > in use? > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "rzick1" <rzick1@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <wernerapnj@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Right makes the query of lighting. Clearly a word play in > an > > > > attempt to belittle a serious topic that effects Asbury Park. > > > > > > > > I have refrained from discussions since they appear to be > fruitless > > > > the past several weeks, however, I will take this bait and > trolling > > > > tactic. > > > > > > > > Most recently the Berkeley Hotel installed a flood light on > top of its > > > > SE wing which is the latest example of excess. This particular > fixture > > > > glares all the way to Grand Avenue and beyond. > > > > > > > > It is visible from Main Street which is approximately a half > mile away. > > > > > > > > This latest affront to proper design adds to the already > established > > > > industrial ambiance apparently so desired by our conscientious > developers. > > > > > > > > Glare, energy waste, dark-sky degradation, over lighting, > > > > aesthetics... all legitimate concerns that receive no > attention and > > > > spiral out of control. I've about given up hope that the > obvious > > > > negative impacts will ever be acknowledged. > > > > > > > > Asbury Park would be a better place if attention to all > aspects of > > > > design and development were considered. Instead contentment is > found > > > > in making 'light' of the subject and berating the messenger. > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/files/WernerAPNJ/ > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/41066 > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/40668 > > > > > > > Werner, > > > I couldn't agree with you more about the light pollution from > the Berkeley. > > > > > > I live on the block North of the Berkeley on Sixth Avenue (North > Beach). A few months > > > ago, they installed industrial lighting on the North side of the > hotel which shines > > directly > > > into my bedroom windows. I've contacted and spoke with Bill > Gray and Angel Milette in > > > code enforcement and Barbara Van Wagner in Planning/Zoning for > the City. The light > > > continues to shine in my windows. > > > > > > Any thoughts on how I can get the lights turned off? > > > Many thanks, > > > Bob > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
