didn't read as a joke but whatever. sorry if i offended you or anyone
else. easy to do here. it seems people enjoy being offended.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Gabrielle Obre" 
> <gabrielleobre@> wrote:
> 
> It was joke Gabbi, and a funny one.  The brunt of the joke is the 
> World, not Asbury, in case you didn't get it.
> 
> I hope spouses are at least off limits for abuse around here.
> 
> 
> >
> > sorta sounds like something a scamming drug addict would say.
> > 
> > "just when i was 6 months clean, smack drops in price"
> > 
> > do you think any of ap's failures have anything to do with the 
> people
> > that have been making decisions and not making decisions here for 
> the
> > past chunk of decades?
> > 
> > don't get me wrong, i don't mind the "failures". I am not one of 
> those
> > people who moved here because i thought "its gonna be great in a
> > couple of years" or because i invested in the place, i was happy to
> > take it as is. but lets be real about its issues. maybe not so 
> easy to
> > do if you have tentacles reaching into the halls of mediocre 
> power, or
> > if you are afraid of being wernerized. 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > <justifiedright@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My wife told me the entire World Economy tanked BECAUSE Asbury 
> Park 
> > > was making a comeback.
> > > 
> > > Like it was a last ditch global effort to keep the place down.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > November 16, 2008
> > > > Our Towns
> > > > A Boardwalk Is Poised for Revival. Then the Economy Tanks.
> > > > By PETER APPLEBOME
> > > > 
> > > > ASBURY PARK, N.J.
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, it is something of a bummer.
> > > > 
> > > > Three or four decades of stops and starts — mostly stops — in 
> this
> > > > legendarily faded and ill-starred stretch of the Jersey Shore 
> and
> > > > finally, finally, things seem to reach a critical mass. 
> Revived 
> > > music
> > > > halls of all shapes and sizes. Cool bars, a Mexican taqueria, 
> a 
> > > surfer
> > > > shop, glass blowers and a potter on the Boardwalk. The 
> renovated
> > > > Convention Hall and Paramount Theater with its "Greetings From 
> > > Asbury
> > > > Park" sign out front. And the famous Thursday night "yappy 
> hour" for
> > > > pets at the Wonder Bar.
> > > > 
> > > > The idea is sort of Jersey Shore meets South Beach while still 
> > > staying
> > > > Jersey Shore, and it's not nearly as much of a stretch as it 
> might
> > > > seem. But on a miserable rainy Thursday, with the economy 
> blowing up
> > > > like a joke cigar, it feels more like Springsteen meets 
> Fellini: The
> > > > ratty old Howard Johnson is now the hip seaside Salt Water 
> Beach 
> > > Cafe;
> > > > and the stalled Esperanza condominium project on Asbury Park's 
> most
> > > > famous lot of death, known for its doomed projects, is a 
> hulking
> > > > reminder of what has gone wrong in the midst of plenty that 
> seems to
> > > > be going right.
> > > > 
> > > > Still, those who've bet their future that there really is one 
> in a
> > > > place that a decade ago was about as much of a wasteland as 
> you 
> > > could
> > > > find in America seem pretty philosophical about the bad 
> timing. 
> > > Let's
> > > > face it, we're all feeling our way through the smoke without 
> much of
> > > > an idea of what's around the corner. So maybe Asbury Park is 
> just 
> > > like
> > > > any other place, only more so, one foot just out of the crypt, 
> the
> > > > other reaching for firm ground, whistling past the graveyard 
> into 
> > > the
> > > > great beyond.
> > > > 
> > > > Take Marilyn Schlossbach, a Jersey Shore native and a well-
> known 
> > > local
> > > > restaurateur. Back in the false revival of the 1980s, she lost 
> the
> > > > land she'd inherited from her parents in a failed restaurant 
> > > venture.
> > > > This time, she and her husband are presiding over Pop's 
> Garage, the
> > > > taqueria; Lightly Salted, the surf shop; and the just-opened 
> > > Langosta
> > > > Lounge, billed as a "global fusion" restaurant. They are all 
> part 
> > > of a
> > > > $60 million investment by the Madison Marquette development 
> firm in
> > > > the Boardwalk, which this weekend has all its major 
> attractions open
> > > > for the first time. Altogether, at least $160 million has been
> > > > invested in an area that a decade ago was a seaside ghost town.
> > > > 
> > > > You might think this is pretty cruel timing, but Ms. 
> Schlossbach, 
> > > who
> > > > has seen enough over the years, figures that this is just 
> another 
> > > hand
> > > > to play.
> > > > 
> > > > "There's something about this place that sucks you in," she 
> said on
> > > > Thursday, the ocean a dark, angry swirl outside the window of 
> the
> > > > lounge. "You could say it's cursed or you could say it's got 
> karmic
> > > > energy or you could say it's blessed. I don't know. But there's
> > > > something about Asbury Park that keeps you coming back. I'm 
> living
> > > > proof of it. I've already lost and gained and lost and gained 
> a 
> > > couple
> > > > of times, but I'm here, and I still want to be here."
> > > > 
> > > > If not for Bruce Springsteen, whose 1973 debut 
> album, "Greetings 
> > > From
> > > > Asbury Park, N.J.," turned this place from faded Jersey Shore 
> town 
> > > to
> > > > national icon, maybe no one would care all that much about 
> Asbury
> > > > Park. Developed as a seaside resort in 1871, its Boardwalk 
> became a
> > > > shore monument in the 1920s. The place waxed and waned over 
> the 
> > > years,
> > > > and lurched toward disaster after racial unrest that peaked 
> with the
> > > > riots of 1970. Then the waterfront slipped into total ruin and
> > > > abandonment in the early 1990s.
> > > > 
> > > > "To see people on the Boardwalk in the winter, it's a 
> miracle," said
> > > > Leigh Grahill, who is moving her business, which sells hand-
> sewn
> > > > couture, to the arcade in Convention Hall. "Until last year, 
> you 
> > > would
> > > > not find a soul, not a soul, there. I remember when I first 
> started
> > > > looking at Asbury Park in 1999, parking my car in the middle 
> of the
> > > > day and not wanting to get out because there was no one there, 
> not a
> > > > car, not a sound, nothing."
> > > > 
> > > > Various big residential plans came and went, but, partly 
> because of 
> > > an
> > > > influx of gay men and lesbians looking for cheaper 
> alternatives to
> > > > places like Fire Island, it began coming back around 2000. The
> > > > residential revival helped bring back downtown, now quite 
> alive with
> > > > shops and restaurants. Then came the beachfront development, 
> > > beginning
> > > > around 2005. From 2007 to 2008, the number of daily beach-
> access
> > > > badges sold during the summer increased to 52,000 from 38,000. 
> Live
> > > > Nation, the concert promoter, signed an agreement to promote 
> music 
> > > at
> > > > various locations.
> > > > 
> > > > After all those years of going nowhere, Asbury Park was 
> clearly 
> > > going
> > > > somewhere. And then, boom — the bottom fell out of the economy.
> > > > 
> > > > A glass-full outlook might say that people need entertainment, 
> that
> > > > two million people live within 45 minutes of the place, that 
> there's
> > > > nothing comparable on the Shore and that in bad times people 
> might
> > > > want entertainment closer to home anyway.
> > > > 
> > > > Lance Larson, a veteran musician who helps run the Wonder Bar, 
> > > figures
> > > > that Asbury Park has a heritage of music, art and eccentricity 
> that
> > > > will attract people, tough times or no.
> > > > 
> > > > "We have one thing that no one else does, and that's 
> entertainment,"
> > > > he said, picking at a cheeseburger on Thursday 
> afternoon. "It's not
> > > > just because of Bruce. It's always been that way. I've toured 
> every
> > > > place, and there's no place like playing here. It's like Parris
> > > > Island, the boot camp of music. If you can play here, you can 
> play
> > > > anywhere."
> > > > 
> > > > And if the economy goes totally in the tank at the start of 
> Asbury
> > > > Park's big new moment? He shrugs. "We've been to hell 
> already," he
> > > > said. "Been there, done that. If we could handle that, we can 
> handle
> > > > this."
> > > > 
> > > > E-mail: peappl@
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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