Another thing that needs to be considered, and I know Oak has mentioned this 
before

If there were to be 3000 condos built, who is to say 2500 of those units 
wouldn't be bought as "2nd Homes" for Summer usage . We see this a lot as it is 
with the single family homes. Condos would be more appealing for this due to 
maintence and such.

 That would end up hurting our waterfront business' in the winter months. Where 
as if you have a 60/40 mix of rental/condo, you're practically ensuring year 
round residency, thus providing ample bodies in and out of the waterfront 
stores/restaurants

Traffic to me isn't a concern, we live in a city, that means, noise, traffic, a 
lot of people etc

And lastly, any condo/apt buildings that are built better come with a large 
parking garage under it, or we'll have serious parking issues

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-----Original Message-----
From: Helen Pike <helenpike2...@yahoo.com>
Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:20:08 
To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

I think the word "support" is key:

Can the sewerage plant support the effluent from 3,000 units?

Can the streets support the one and/or two-car traffic from those who live in 
the condos? 


And, if they are all weekenders, how will that traffic affect the quality of 
life for those who live in Asbury Park year-round?

Would Kingsley evolve into a Cross-Bronx Expressway-like divider, making a new 
distinction between east and west?

Helen Pike 




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From: oakdorf <oakd...@yahoo.com>
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 9:29:59 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....

  


> 
> I doubt, and have doubted for years, the ability of AP to support an 
> additional 
>3,000 condos. 
>

Depends. Depends on where you price it, amenities etc. Need a better mix of 
apartments, condos, hotels etc - and then your mix of retail.

A well thought mix from starter units on up and you build a community, a 
destination a city - or the new "lifestyle" center. cookman ave is slowly 
redeveloping itself - slowly but an evolving lifestyle center - without B&N, PF 
Changs, Jonny Rockets and the Gap.

Hopefully more office space comes to town, more day traffic - medical, high 
tech, design etc.

Before they finish repaving Lake Ave into a super highway - would of been nice 
to see all of lake ave redesigned. sure you need parking, but making it 
narrower 
or adding a median or rethinking the curb lines with bump outs - or lakeside 
dining would be real nice touch.

As for dan's Asbury Ave problem - Sunset's an exit as is heading north along 
Ocean Ave into Allenhurst. The Ocean and Allenhurst pd are more then happy to 
welcome anyone leaving AP.

Once springwood ave is cleaned up - that's short way out to 35 - as is 4th ave.

Even AP ave is getting somewhat cleaner looking. Still needs a good scrubbing.

AP is one of only a few towns in NJ that are continuing to develop - with a way 
to go. 






      

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