I don't think you could assume that "2nd Homes" would mean a major decline in 
winter business.  I originally bought my condo for "summer use", but find I use 
it year round and found I love the winter at the beach.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote:
>
> Another thing that needs to be considered, and I know Oak has mentioned this 
> before
> 
> If there were to be 3000 condos built, who is to say 2500 of those units 
> wouldn't be bought as "2nd Homes" for Summer usage . We see this a lot as it 
> is with the single family homes. Condos would be more appealing for this due 
> to maintence and such.
> 
>  That would end up hurting our waterfront business' in the winter months. 
> Where as if you have a 60/40 mix of rental/condo, you're practically ensuring 
> year round residency, thus providing ample bodies in and out of the 
> waterfront stores/restaurants
> 
> Traffic to me isn't a concern, we live in a city, that means, noise, traffic, 
> a lot of people etc
> 
> And lastly, any condo/apt buildings that are built better come with a large 
> parking garage under it, or we'll have serious parking issues
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Helen Pike <helenpike2...@...>
> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 04:20:08 
> To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....
> 
> I think the word "support" is key:
> 
> Can the sewerage plant support the effluent from 3,000 units?
> 
> Can the streets support the one and/or two-car traffic from those who live in 
> the condos? 
> 
> 
> And, if they are all weekenders, how will that traffic affect the quality of 
> life for those who live in Asbury Park year-round?
> 
> Would Kingsley evolve into a Cross-Bronx Expressway-like divider, making a 
> new 
> distinction between east and west?
> 
> Helen Pike 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: oakdorf <oakd...@...>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 9:29:59 PM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....
> 
>   
> 
> 
> > 
> > I doubt, and have doubted for years, the ability of AP to support an 
> > additional 
> >3,000 condos. 
> >
> 
> Depends. Depends on where you price it, amenities etc. Need a better mix of 
> apartments, condos, hotels etc - and then your mix of retail.
> 
> A well thought mix from starter units on up and you build a community, a 
> destination a city - or the new "lifestyle" center. cookman ave is slowly 
> redeveloping itself - slowly but an evolving lifestyle center - without B&N, 
> PF 
> Changs, Jonny Rockets and the Gap.
> 
> Hopefully more office space comes to town, more day traffic - medical, high 
> tech, design etc.
> 
> Before they finish repaving Lake Ave into a super highway - would of been 
> nice 
> to see all of lake ave redesigned. sure you need parking, but making it 
> narrower 
> or adding a median or rethinking the curb lines with bump outs - or lakeside 
> dining would be real nice touch.
> 
> As for dan's Asbury Ave problem - Sunset's an exit as is heading north along 
> Ocean Ave into Allenhurst. The Ocean and Allenhurst pd are more then happy to 
> welcome anyone leaving AP.
> 
> Once springwood ave is cleaned up - that's short way out to 35 - as is 4th 
> ave.
> 
> Even AP ave is getting somewhat cleaner looking. Still needs a good scrubbing.
> 
> AP is one of only a few towns in NJ that are continuing to develop - with a 
> way 
> to go. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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