I think that the art aspect is wonderful, but why limit a city that's always
been so diverse with just one thing?  

Let's not pigeonhole Asbury - rather, let's embrace its diversity, and
utilize that.

As for the question earlier about where the Revision would relocate to,
there are a few ideas, but the first one is that if the Casino is rebuilt as
it was supposed to be, there would be plenty of room to move it inward some,
perhaps the area where the old fun house was?  Or, better yet, it could use
another building that is currently empty - last I checked, there was still
nothing in the old Hitching Rail / Higgenbottom's Pizza Pub building
adjacent to the Pony, that is longer and narrower but I think roughly the
same square footage as the Carousel House.  Also, aren't the upstairs areas
of Convention Hall still not being used?  Just a few thoughts!

Jenni

-----Original Message-----
From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:29 PM
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Values and more...

In business one of the key determinants of success is focusing on something
specific and doing it extremely well.  having a few rides will just be an
eyesore and a half baked attempt at luring some families in.  in my humble
opinion i think they need to keep going with the art and music scene as far
as they can take it.  An adult playground so to speak.  Pick a vision
(werner has done a good job detailing why music and entertainment make
sense), stick to it and then don't veer from the course.  Focus and build.
I agree with art, music, beerfests etc...  I had a bunch of friends down and
they loved the beerfest.  Spent a bundle at the beer fest, ate at pops and
then probably spent a few hundred in Porta.  All good for the town.  Let's
not despair at this point.  Look at what is happening on Cookman.  Art
focused, keep it going.

Dan

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@...> wrote:
>
> I dont think we will see rides. Maybe something small. The key to it all
is the Casino. MM wont budge. They seem to be the problem now. My calls for
a carousel in the carousel house are ignored. iStar needs the Casino area to
be done. While it is a partner with MM, MM has control. I think that will
have to change and maybe will.
> 
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <oakdorf@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > there's no reason why you can't have a "classy" amusement area - if
wanted at all. Fact is, people do come with kids and might spend more. The
might come back without their kids and spend even more.
> > 
> > Talking about lost cities, I went to AC Friday-Saturday night. We bought
our bikes and rode from the North end of AC (the very pretty ..I mean what
could be...) all the way down to margate. 
> > 
> > The landscape is dotted with failed developments and the "what the f"
Revel Casino now once again underway.
> > 
> > Parts along the inlet with beautiful new "fancy" homes, a few single
family low-middle income homes, a few lower-middle income apt buildings and
a few dilapidated buildings. 
> > 
> > ALong the boardwalk - the typical bw stuff that at age 50 has seemed to
see better days. But a gentleman's club along with at least 3 massage
parlors also dot the boardwalk. 
> > 
> > My wife wanted me to look into some junk property there. I laughed. 
> > 
> > Since I was around 18 on our first run to ac with $20 in our pocket,
it's been 33 years to get to where it is today.
> > 
> > Asbury has it's own share of "problems".  What asbury has turned out to
be today has been a matter of sheer luck and enterprising individuals - some
who have lost money over the years and others who have come here at the
right time and managed or are managing to survive.
> > 
> > One of these days, I'd like to coordinate a "show" of all the projects
that were planned for AP since the 20's. 
> > 
> > Think about it. Aquariums, Jai Alai, Baseball stadium, arenas, enclosing
cookman ave into a mall, skyscrapers, apartment buildings, offices on the bw
and of course the jackson pavilion....
> > 
> > Asbury only has vacant land for development in two places - the
oceanfront and springwood ave. Everything requires  removal of buildings.
> > 
> > Maybe it will be done in 5 years....maybe 10, maybe 30.  (I think I
heard this since I was 17)
> > 
> > You actually have a good start and are positioned for the future - just
pick your time period.
> > 
> > The biggest plus and what would seem the easiest - Put a Carousel in the
Casino. Yes, REvision has done a great job of bringing people in.
> >
>




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