Yes, but this isn't Hoboken or Jersey City or Manhattan (unless the Met has
moved in recently without my knowledge). It's the freakin' Jersey Shore,
people, not the New York City metro area. I am from Washington DC where we paid
$89 annually for residential parking. It was worth it a) because the parking
zone was very large and b)it was Washington DC. If it were reasonable to park
here, I'd pay it. But it's not. I mean, why should I pay to park near the beach
in the dead of winter? Come on, even Manhattan has free on-street parking at
certain hours...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids <claire.davids@...> wrote:
>
> We have to compare it to other towns though, if you lived and worked in
> Hoboken, Jersey City, Manhattan in the downtown areas you would have to pay
> for parking (when we lived in NY we paid nearly $000s/month for parking for
> a car and motorbike), it's a lifestyle choice we had to accept. Living in
> AP and working in AP is no different to that, much cheaper, but you would
> expect it to be much cheaper as it's the "suburbs". It's tough to impose
> costs on people who have not paid them until now, and I understand that is
> not pleasant to increase your cost of living and I truly feel for those
> impacted, but perhaps we've not been in a reality until now.
>
> It's not dissimilar to gas pricing, when gas was $1.50/gallon it was not a
> reality, the rest of the world was paying $5 to $10 / gallon if not an oil
> producing nation. So when it raised to $3 / $4 here it put the country in a
> real situation as opposed to a deflated one. I don't mean to bring this up
> to raise a debate on gas prices here or cause some political debate, i'm
> just using it as a comparison about living in reality.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Hinge <hinge98@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > The bottom line in my opinion is people coming to the downtown area to eat
> > are happy to find open parking spaces, but the reality is that during
> > working hours, downtown has become a ghosttown, and tons of people aren't
> > happy about it. The city has basically said screw you to employees and
> > residents. Same thing that happened in my neighborhood.
> > I think the America's Cup guy is reluctant to admit that his own push for
> > paid parking has had a detrimental effect on his business.
> > I work on Bond Street. Every employee at my company refused to buy a
> > parking pass. In this economy, adding what amounts to another tax on your
> > income simply isn't a good idea. Not only that, but I believe that if you
> > buy the employee parking pass, you still have to park blocks away from where
> > you work. Correct me if I'm wrong about that one. Then, if you get somebody
> > like me, who now has to pay to park in front of his home and works downtown,
> > you are screwed. How is this helping residents and employees?
> >
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids <claire.davids@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Take the conversation further with the Americas Cup owner though, my
> > husband
> > > and i spoke to him last saturday for a while about parking and at that
> > > point he was very happy with the paid parking, even if business is down
> > he
> > > sees it as a huge benefit in the long term, plus you can't gauge business
> > > being down, there are now 3 coffee shops downtown (if you include the
> > gelato
> > > place), maybe that's why business is down, we don't drink enough coffee
> > to
> > > support 3 coffee shops. maybe now there's parking people will come from
> > > neighbouring towns for coffee. there are way too many variables at play
> > to
> > > blame it one just one thing.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Hinge <hinge98@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday morning, I stopped at America's Cup for a bagel. Totally dead
> > > > compared to before parking went into effect. I overheard a conversation
> > with
> > > > the owner saying that business is down big time. Same thing with Russo
> > > > Music. They are saying that they had the worst week of business since
> > they
> > > > opened.
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Meanwhile, several of the business's that lobbied for paid parking
> > are
> > > > stating that business has gone downhill since it went into effect.
> > > > > There's also unhappy people north of the parking zone in the
> > residential
> > > > neighborhoods. Scores of employee's who are not willing to pay to park
> > are
> > > > now parking in those areas. It really gets bad when the school in that
> > > > neighborhood gets out. There used to be open parking for people to stop
> > and
> > > > wait for their kids, now it's become a log jam that did not exist
> > before.
> > > > > Also, there were 3 break in's this past week, 2 on Mattison and 1 on
> > > > Cookman.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Claire Davids <claire.davids@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm with you, I avoided too - now i don't avoid, i think it's great
> > > > that i
> > > > > > can find parking. If you talk to some of the retailers they're
> > happy
> > > > about
> > > > > > the parking situation and it has increased business for them. There
> > are
> > > > > > always going to be complainers, it's human nature, if it wasn't
> > parking
> > > > > > they'd be complaining about the roadworks, or the weather or the
> > > > something
> > > > > > else, something else.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:32 AM, fancypaaantz <fancypaaantz@
> > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I came in 2004, America's Cup was not here until much later. In
> > 2004,
> > > > there
> > > > > > > was Harry's Roadhouse, Rock Paper Scissors, Be Green and Janet's
> > > > boutique on
> > > > > > > Cookman, with a few other things. When did America's Cup open?
> > 2008?
> > > > When I
> > > > > > > first moved here, I just parked on Lake bc there was always
> > parking
> > > > over
> > > > > > > there at that time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Quite honestly, I kind of avoided Cookman BC of the parking
> > situation
> > > > in
> > > > > > > more recent years. I could never find a spot and I find that
> > annoying
> > > > if I
> > > > > > > just want to run in somewhere for something quick. So, I think it
> > > > really
> > > > > > > cuts both ways.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Where were these patrons (that are suddenly gone from the
> > downtown)
> > > > > > > parking before the meters went into effect?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: Dennis Dubrow <traderdube@>
> > > > > > > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:42:37
> > > > > > > > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] 2003
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Asbury is a ghost town, I spoke to a number of Cookman
> > retailers,
> > > > > > > business is down since the meters went into effect. It reminds me
> > of
> > > > 8 years
> > > > > > > ago when we bulls some stores and rented them, then America's cup
> > > > opened and
> > > > > > > we sat there waiting for a customer to come in...and waited and
> > > > waited and
> > > > > > > waited. The merchants that are still there, and almost all the
> > > > current
> > > > > > > merchants are hard working business people, not weekend warriors
> > > > looking for
> > > > > > > a tax write off by opening a store...and then never opening. The
> > high
> > > > taxes,
> > > > > > > the extraordinary cost of opening a business in AP, and now the
> > > > parking
> > > > > > > meters that don't even work are a detriment to downtown Asbury in
> > a
> > > > huge
> > > > > > > way. Occupay AP should be railing against this travesty of a
> > money
> > > > grab by
> > > > > > > the powers that be in city hall.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
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