I'll grant you that. See my post on speakers. But, when it comes to electronic components, we can learn quite a lot from the specs and testing results and, at the very least, that should give us information for an initial winnowing out process. After all, you're not going to listen to every component on the planet before buying -- that wouldn't be practical.
So, knowing things about jitter, output impedance (for amps,) frequency response, etc., are important and useful. Most manufacturers publish some of this data...and some of it doesn't mean a lot. What's the audible difference in an amp with THD of .05% and .005%? None. But...it would be nice to know something about damping factor and have a look at the frequency response curve! When buying digital components, knowing something about jitter tells us about how well something might perform. Sean did just this, by publishing that comparison chart. I guess that part of my issue with the modders -- and I suppose I could have been less sarcastic and more polite about this, mea culpa, and don't beat me over the head about it, please -- is that 1) they specifically do not subject their equipment to objective, publishable testing themselves or by other people, and 2) rely on spelling out all the parts they will replace...which sounds impressive, but really means nothing to the layman. Like Sean and others have said, it is quite possible to improve on products via modifications -- I don't deny that nor do I deny anyone the right to pursue it as a passion or hobby. It is true, though, that it is awfully easy to mess things up. For instance, you're NOT going to lower the noise floor of a DAC. Anything that comes after it will only increase the noise floor...so be careful right? It would be cool, then, for these folks to publish measurement results, comparing stock units to their units. If the differences are there, they would be verified in numbers, and it could only serve expand their market. P Floding;143165 Wrote: > They are, and have been for a very long time! > > The problem is that measured parameters are not easily translated to > listening experience. -- highdudgeon ------------------------------------------------------------------------ highdudgeon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2195 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28080 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles