I repeat, I did not wrote "15 and up", I wrote "15kHz" upward. I am referring to tweaking the "frequency response" of his sytem, not turning up the volume knob, I did not write "boosting the entire spectrum". So stop assuming that everyone is stupid and only you are clever. There's enough debates about how to properly conduct a double blind test, the things that you were quoting does not put you on the winning side.
Your PHD degree is not well deserved, because you can't even read properly, which school did you go to? What GRE score did you get for the admission? You want to talk about qualification? You want to use your qualification to prove your superiority? You have no idea where I come from, what I studied and where I studied. Just because you have a PhD so you assume that I have less? I repeat, from my numereous experience in auditioning hi-fi system, listening to the same thing with many different people, gathering their feedback, it's evident to me that each of us hear things differently. Sometimes when I found certain system sounded rather harsh, the guy next to me say:"Oh no, it doesn't sound harsh at all, it's just nice and pleasant to my ear". So if you want to call this "taste", fine, you're perfectly entitled to your definition of "taste". You can talk all kind of theories you want, at the end of the day, you don't have my ears, how can you be so sure that you are hearing the same thing I am hearing? Well, I guess I have nothing left to say, let's face it, there will always be "audiophiles" who bought so-called "snake oil" products, there's nothing you can do to stop them, no matter how hard you try, you're not going to change people. You have your own way of choosing products, we have our own way. Just leave us alone. highdudgeon;143956 Wrote: > You wrote 15 and up -- but 15 and up to where? 20khz? In that case, > all your friend did was turn up the volume by 20db and everything > stayed linear. I don't think you understand. It matters, and it > matters a great deal, if someone raises a particular range. If you > boost the entire spectrum, that's called turning up the volume. > Basically, you didn't answer my question. And, if that WAS your answer, > then you don't understand the situation. > > I'm not going to go into this. I have a mere doctorate degree in > history and physics, I'm married to a physician, I managed an > experimental psychology journal for three years whilst in graduate > school, so I think I know what I'm talking about. I beg of you, go ask > someone with technical knowledge. Not audio hobby knowledge -- medical > and psychological knowledge. > > Again, why did the knowlegeable audiophiles think a CD player sounded > different with a pizza box support on top of it? Because of the power > of suggestion. Same ears, same SOUND, but two different results. Why > is it that some audiophiles could claim with certaintly that a $1,000 > power cord made a difference...but were then not able to score better > than 50% -- the flip of a coin -- in distinguising a walwart cord from > a $1,000 cord in a double blind test? Think about these things. > > People's ears aren't warmer or leaner or whatever, anymore than we see > different colors. It's like this: a sound wave hits your ear; the > signal is 50 cycles; that's what you process. Period. You see a shade > of yellow. You're seeing a certain frequency, period. I don't see the > yellow differently than you (unless I have a serious condition, and > that is possible. Note bene: Van Gogh; but he just say more of a > certain thing). However, you might LIKE certain sound characteristics > more than others. Understand? It's taste, cultural and social > situation, etc. I have a friend who swears by beveling CDs, painting > the edges black, etc. It is complete bunk. I can't hear a thing, > there's no reason why I should hear anything, and no one else can, > either. But he's way into it and swears he does. I believe him. > Psychology is like that. > > But, you know better. I don't appreciate the rude post, by the way, > but I think it is funny that you weren't able to answer a very simple > question. I think I phrased it politely and gave specific parameters > for a reply. Basically, you just said that your pal turned up the > volume. A lot. So, think again: what frequency range? What slope, or > was it a mind-bogglying silly straight shelf? Was he using an EQ device > or just a volume knob? And, what music was he listening to that had > information below 20hz? You do know that CDs cut off at 20hz, right? > So, no matter how hard he tried, he could do nothing -- nothing -- > below that range? In which case, why was he bothering? And, while > you're at it...you do realize that the vast majority of EQ units do not > go down to 15hz? Right? Because we can't hear that stuff and it isn't > really present in our music? > > Something to think about. My post was serious. Actual, real-life > facts, that sort of thing. Your posts, on a routine basis, are based > on the premise that you are right and that everyone else is wrong. > Funny, that, because your posts on physics gave quite a few of us > actual science types a good laugh. It would be good to see you reply > with things like data and verifiable information. > > Then again, you are right, as you say, so maybe you shouldn't bother > thinking. -- 95bcwh ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 95bcwh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4358 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28368 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
