ralphpnj;331751 Wrote: > > I think that ABX tests are flawed because the tests are doing exactly > what you say they are doing: > > a) they do not reveal the differences in some comparisons, e.g. between > high bit rate lossy files and lossless files
OK, let's accept that for the sake of argument - even though we have no such example, and on the contrary, ABX CAN reveal differences between the highest bitrate MP3 and WAV. But go on. > So what we are really talking about is just how a large the difference > between the two things being compared has to be before ABX testing can > reliably reveal those differences. Is this correct because I want > everyone to be on the same page. Sure. There's a term for that size of difference - it's called "audibility". > So here's my point, real differences exist between high bit rate lossy > files and lossless files, Absolutely agreed. Real differences also exist between two files that are identical except for the name. > differences that times can be audible and yet ABX testing cannot reveal > that is a difference between the two files. Whoa there! How did you get from "real differences exist" to "the differences are audible but cannot be detected by ABX"? I must have missed a step in there somewhere... can you please clarify? Maybe you could give an example of a case where you know there is an audible difference, but ABX can't reveal it? -- opaqueice ------------------------------------------------------------------------ opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51021 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles