JJZolx;352728 Wrote: > How do sleep at night knowing there are people in this world listening > to less than stellar audio systems in their dining rooms and nurseries?
I try not to think about it plus I would want a real powerfull system in the nursery! ;-) No, but seriously, this is the audiophile forum so IMO it's a logical place to give negative opinions on amps that can't be considered audiophile by far when one feels that way about the amp. When you read back my posts in this thread, I recommended Boom's which are less than stellar too and even, I almost don't dare to repeat it, decent active PC speakers. It's not about the absolute quality level itself, but about the lack of any level of quality requirement and the way one implements it. > I think what you're missing (not that anyone can convince you) is that > many people want neat, unobtrusive, whole house audio systems in their > homes. Some nearly invisible ceiling or in-wall speakers and a control > on the wall. Not an entire stereo system in every freaking room of the > house. To my own surprise I follow you here.... but only partly :) I would want neat, unobtrusive systems in most of my house (if I didn't live on a boat), but I disagree you need "whole-house" amps for that. And I would have nothing against in-wall speakers as long as they provide something more than the "Burger King PA sound". And if someone puts a "van Gogh" on the wall I can even understand it when they don't want a on-wall or in-wall speaker next to it. I do object to the idea that pulling speaker wires from the other side of the house into a room, plus installing in-wall volume controls is less work than finding an AC outlet or even adding one (and electrical codes do allow that even above the ceiling) plus finding an invisible spot for SB + active speakers. Or put a Boom in the bedroom instead and eliminate all work. And there are really nice and small amps available that one can hide from view in anything but a prison cell, although I would prefer active speakers and yes you can buy active in-wall and in-ceiling speakers with remote volume control too! Much better than that amp and wires and stuff. I would also end up with several different systems for different rooms because I would have different sonic requirements for them. I actually removed all cabin in-wall-volume-controls aboard Jedi. They were really nice, incl. switches for A/B speakers and even headphone sockets! Expensive stuff... but they were noisy and some emitted smoke somewhere down the road... I find it much more unobtrusive to have no such controls at all but use a wireless remote instead... plus it won't smoke or add noise! I really don't understand why someone would reject them and insist on in-wall volume controls instead. In another forum here I see photo's where people build a SB into the wall as the only visible evidence that there's an audio-system in the room. You can see what's playing and use the local IR remote not just for volume but for selecting music too. Or, if you don't even want to see that, it's easy to hide a very small SB receiver and some active (on/in wall/ceiling) speakers and you see nothing and use the SB controller for everything. I you don't want to carry these with you around the house, buy a couple extra. So, yes I prefer non obtrusive systems but no I don't want in-ceiling speakers nor in-wall volume controls and I consider a SB + active speakers not more a "entire stereo system in every freaking room" than I do passive speakers plus in-wall volume controls plus speaker wires to the other side of the house to a dingelingeling amp. I'll even go further and claim that the SB + active speakers is a much more neat and clean and better sounding system with less trouble and less installation time than the wires and in-wall volume controls and passive speakers setup. And I don't have to go to a "Pacific Rim Marketing" dealer to buy the amp because the sales droid that I would meet there is stuff for nightmares. You might also have noticed that I like spicy postings but don't worry, I laugh about myself and my posting too and they are never too hot for my taste... although I consider editing the "reason for editing" of my previous post if I figure out how to do that ;-) cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53288 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
