darrenyeats;411775 Wrote: > That isn't necessarily true. A good DBT test will take any statistically > significant groups like that and test further to check whether the > apparent statistical significance is just chance or something real. I > say a good DBT... > > Let's get back to the central point. Arguing about specific DBT tests > can sometimes be a smoke screen for avoiding the central principle, > namely the placebo effect applies to music listening. Let's have a > debate about what (if anything) can be done to address the placebo > effect properly and practically. But to deny the placebo effect is > acknowledged generally, as in outside of this little audiophile world, > as unrealistic. > Darren
Darren, Your posts are consistently on the mark and you go out of way to put out the flames instead of fanning them. As I stated in my prior post, I agree that the placebo effect is real and I agree that the use of DBTs can be helpful. I only take issue with those who claim that DBTs are good enough to use as a single tool in making audio purchase decisions. That's the reason that I find Stereophile's inclusion of test results as part of an equipment review to be an important tool to be used along with the subjective review. darrenyeats;411778 Wrote: > I can see our views are not that far apart. Just kidding. :) > > Seriously, we are probably more in agreement than not. I think what is > damaging is "fundamentalism" on either side. I would describe myself as > a skeptical agnostic. > > "Keep an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out." - > Richard Feynman > Darren Again you are correct. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels -> Snatch -> The Transporter -> Transporter 2 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61877 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
