The lack of dbt or other objective test methods leads to a lot of cargo cult engineering that makes products more expensive and also to underperform .
All kind of myths and newage stuff is going on . Of course electrical and acoustical measurements are being done too, by serious brands , they don't listen to capacitors in their garage and release an mk2 ,3 ,4 ,n off their products with another set off senseless mods that in best case makes it different than it was but no better... Because you hear something it might not be a real phenomena. To be blunt there is no electrical or acoustical difference in the signal that reaches your ear it all happens in your head, or they are smaller than the threshold of human hearing, therefore you have to measure to improve products. If the sound-waves have not changed and your hearing a difference ? what is that. Imho this illusion of improvement can not be maintained indefinitely even by the most powerfull self suggestion , so you have to jump on the next big thing another kind of magic rock or something. So these "imagined" improvements don't last in the long run you can not build a complete super hi-end stereo purely out of your own imagination it has to perform in the physical universe too, eventually. But I have seen contraptions that comes darn close... ;) BUT FOR YOUR OWN NEEDS YOU DON'T HAVE TO DBT EVERY PURCHASE . YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DECISION ANYWAY YOU WANT THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU IN A FREE WORLD. BUT IT IS A POWERFUL TOOL TO WEED OUT THE HUMAN BIAS. You can however try to mitigate a much bigger problem, many people do not compare stuff at the same listening level (not doing soo would ruin any blind test too) very small level differences can be perciveid as "better" Better. Everybody does not have to be dbt zealots just comparing at the same level would profoundly change the audio business to the better. But it seems possible to transfer your own mindgames to others this is really interesting, think about all the audio myths as some kind of social virus that travels trough media ,web and hifi magasines in no time whole populutaions of audiophiles can be convinced that a certain speaker wire "sounds bright" or something. Sorry for this long post .. But what matters most in web fora imho is that people just transfers their own "viruses" to others without thinking. If I for example finds that placing a slice of bacon on my amps makes them sound soo much better.(it might work the smell of bacon makes me happy and in a good mode, it can easily pull some strings in my brain). Should I go on and publish this revelation as the gospel in an audio forum ? Is that a responsible way to behave ? Many audio-forums is filled with post like a punter doing some nonsense mod, others follow suite in the same tread,this is many cases leading nowhere, occasionally they find something by chance. So if you are sharing your experiences too others you can try to self moderate and filter out whats really happening . Everyone is of-course free to toy with their magic crystals at their own leisure, but are they really free to convince others without trying to reality check their information ? Some are very anti dbt claiming that that the dbt situation itself makes it harder to hear real differences, but the solution is not to reintroduce the magnitudes bigger problem with sighted testings and the inevitable human bias that follows . This migth be a valid concern but how to test that ? -- Mnyb -------------------------------------------------------------------- Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: SB3 + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad 64gB wifi +3g with iPengHD & SqueezePad ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88345 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles