Phil Leigh;693025 Wrote: > What "field data"? - are you seriously expecting us to take heed of some > anecdotal claim that there are audible difference between 2 bit-perfect > rips? > > Some of the people here have done/listened to more rips than you or the > guys at TAS or even at Record companies could imagine... 100,000's of > them! > > No-one here claims/believes there is a difference. So that's "field > data" for you. > > The whole point of the SB streaming model is that bit-perfect rips to > hard disk eliminate the computer and it network - ALL of the software > and hardware - from the replay chain. Ethernet packets arrive in SB > player - they could have come from anywhere. They only hold data... no > magic... and more importantly nothing that can be damaged/changed > without us noticing. Don't believe me? - try playing back a dts or HDCD > stream... > > We can discuss endlessly what happens within the SB player and/or > attached DAC (if any) but all discussion about what happens prior to > the SB player begins and ends with having a bit-perfect rip (a > mathematically trivially provable thing, unlike all audio snake oil). > > > Please we've been discussing this for the last 7+ years! > There's no difference if I send this post from my Laptop, PC or iPad. > Same data... this is COMPUTING not AUDIO. Computing has very rigid > rules. Audio has almost no rules. > > There's no AUDIO until inside the SB... > > > As for WAV/FLAC, I see both Linn & Naim will happily sell you and let > you playback both. Good for them. The data content is identical. What > happens inside the player is a whole different issue.
This rather misses the point: they weren't writing about the Squeezebox or even the streaming model in most cases. This is AUDIO with COMPUTING devices. Some of you forget this: anything you attach to a sensitive device influences it: you can't wave a wand and say that hideous power supply is now magically OK because it's a computer: the amplifier and DAC don't care about its ability to process numbers: they only care about getting a clean signal, without intermod distortion. Computers fail epically in this regard. Where the data comes from, and how it is ripped, is absolutely irrelevant to the WAV v FLAC question: that's (once again) all about changes within the local playback environment. It's hard to know whether forum members are deliberately turning a blind eye to this stuff for rhetorical effect, or have genuinely been conditioned to believe it's unimportant. -- item_audio ------------------------------------------------------------------------ item_audio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93549 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
