psp;696777 Wrote: 
> I have used these two approaches (different proceedures, but similar at
> the core) to place monitors (GR Research Paradox 1) and my Linkwitz
> Orions in their rooms.  
> 
> The "Iron Chef" method of speaker placement:
> http://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m.html?forum=speakers&n=215930&highlight=Iron+chef+speaker+setup&search_url=%2Fdefault.mpl%3Fsearchtext%3DIron%2Bchef%2Bspeaker%2Bsetup%26b%3DAND%26topic%3D%26topics_only%3DN%26author%3D%26date1%3D%26date2%3D%26slowmessage%3D%26sort%3Dscore%26sortOrder%3DDESC%26forum%3DALL
> 
> Or the Master Set method:
> http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=60819.0
> 
> Once you have done this a few times, it takes about an hour.  The first
> time, maybe 3 hours.  I run a tape measure to the rear wall behind the
> speaker and firmly tape it in place (or use weights) because the
> measurements need to be accurate to at least 1/16" (not kidding). 
> Speaker movements are 1/8" at a time, and once in the zone you should
> make smaller 1/16" movements.  At the end, you will have a great
> improvement in the bass (solid vs. boomy) and a remarkable improvement
> in clarity and coherence.  The great surprise is that once you get it
> right, the sound is right for a large area (6-8 feet in my room) around
> the listening chair.        
> 
> My advice (based on long discussions on other forums) is:
> - don't waste time arguing that this is crazy, please just try it.
> - be patient when you first try this... as you move the first speaker
> out from the wall, you are listening for ALL of the bass notes to sound
> firm.  Don't worry, just move the speaker out another 1/8" and try
> again.  It's there, you'll find it.  This is easier if your speakers
> deliver deep bass, a little harder if your monitors only go to 60Hz.
> 
> I use this method for my speakers.  In my experience (my equipment, my
> room, my speakers--small monitors and large dipoles) it works
> profoundly well, and I suggest that you give it a try.  I don't have a
> lot of time to post... maybe I can get one off every 2-3 weeks... and I
> certainly don't have time to argue with folks who would rather argue
> than to try it.
> 
> Pete

Pete,

My first higher-powered (and better phono-cartridged) stereo had DCM
Time Windows (and later, Time Bass.) Everything was paper, and not just
in my speakers. This was before poly or any other exotic drivers (except
JBL.)

My only argument with the above is that it's the precision of placement
with dipoles, not just the correct distance. You can use 1/4" instead of
1/8" above as long as the speakers are 1/8" in agreement with the back
wall. You will know when you are too far away from the wall,



p


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pski

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