The point is that it still does not cost more than a small fraction of those high end $$$ to make a properly functioning cable so they are still shilling bunk :)
cables are an interesting case as for analog signal cables where can measure small differences but not hear them ( because the diff is beond our treashold to hear stuff ) unless again it's badly done . And a good cable still does not cost a fortune . So even if you can measure a small difference it does not invalidate the piont . The anti science is that they is usually claiming magical properties or in best case second rate effects to make a difference . Example that different metals sounds profoundly different ? That's alchemy . A tru second rate effect is skin effect which is no problem at audio frequencies , but it's there and can be measured :P Add some hype oxygen free long crystal bla bla , gues what that's how they make any cable copper ! Noticeable exception I've seen cheap Chinese 3 phase power cabling in my work insulation like taffy the " metal " was yellow orange must be from melting recycled copper with other scrap metal , it emitted smoke and smelled funny in use :) You can make a audiable diff with a speaker cables make it to thin and to long to low impedance speaker with a unruly impedance plot and it actually does something , but it can again be fixed without audiophile $$$$ . You can also find countless of strange $$$$$ cables that actually are worse than even the cheapest of cables , made with strange materials and physical properties that do make for a proper function , unsoiled cables wrong geometry ! Carbon fibre instead of copper ? So in the real world a typical audiophile cable is just as likly to be worse than a free cable you get with a DVD player it can also be slightly better . You just don't know as they are not guided by any scientific principle whe designing them , they mighty have an OCD with " vibrations " or something and " fixed " that . Or actually make stuff up with jargon and surprise provide a cable that " solves " the problem, and then manufacture in china ,make the cable look like jewelry mark up the price at least 2000 -3000 % if not more and make profit . There is a proper cable business , but it's rarely represented by any brand you can find in audiophile rags -------------------------------------------------------------------- Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100783 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles