Golden Earring wrote: > Hi Julf, > > I think we're all agreed that there is a lot of tomfoolery about. > > This does not necessarily imply that high sample rates are bad per se. >
They are bad, per se. Excess sample rates take more technology to make perform well in the audio band, and they open the bandpass at the high end to admission of bad things like the HF waves emitted by the now-endemic switchmode power supplies, for example. Up to a MHz or more, the excess technology to handle the gratuitous sample rate extension is readily available, and just costs money. It has been used as a justification for higher pricing of devices based on the higher sample rate parts. > > I'm still trying to catch up on the theoretical stuff, but I've had a > hint that there may be frequency domain vs. time domain issues in > establishing the best size box to stick a genuine recording into. > The fact that the ear is basically a spectrum analyzer that throws away the complex part of the data it digitizes above 500 Hz-1 KHz helps make the discussion of frequency versus time relatively uninteresting. The fact that the brain throws away most of the rest when it receives the data, further shortens any interesting discussion. The fact is that phase information(within bounds) often does not do a lot to benefit communication or survival explains that. > > Whether any such considerations would be audible in practice cannot be > determined when only "fake" examples are currently available. > Actually, phase information has been generally available for decades in the ranges where it can possibly be perceived. > > > *-If-* you lost anything audibly valuable at the ADC stage, it is > blindingly obvious that there would be no way to subsequently recover it > from a discrete set of "0"s & "1"s. > > I'm staying open-minded until some genuine recordings are available. I > haven't got any DSD stuff myself but I believe some "audiophools" prefer > them to PCM. Of course other peoples' opinions don't *-prove-* anything. > > Back in Y2K I obtained a wide-bandwidth, high quality recording system and made my own recordings of individual sounds and small groups. About 10 years later, this guy did an even better job of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ Actual files to download and use for software ABX: http://ethanwiner.com/aes/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106519 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
