Golden Earring wrote: > Hi all! > > I've recently been assembling some first-time music systems for my 2 > daughters & their hubbies (well unless fiancé or my #1 daughter get the > collywobbles in the next 4 weeks... ), & got hold of some active studio > near-field monitor derived active bookshelf 2-way units off eBay brand > new at about 1/3rd of the 2015 asking price, as is my wont. Inevitably > they're a bit light at the bottom end, but I discovered that Fostex also > offer miniature 5" subwoofers in their current range at about £130 a > pop, so took the chance on a couple of those & big improvement - > obviously not room shaking, but convincing if you twiddle the knobs > carefully in the correct order. > > The (now discontinued) PX-5HS speakers have balanced XLR inputs, in > keeping with their studio monitor lineage. To run them in I initially > connected them to the balanced analogue XLR outputs of my Brokkly DAC, > with its volume control reactivated in the analogue domain. They played > loud enough that my ears clipped well before their Class D amps (35W + > 18W, after in-built electronic crossover) ran out of steam - retreating > to my bathroom revealed that the sound quality was still fine, once I'd > stopped the bleeding from my ears :D . > > Bear in mind that my sprogs are not (at least yet!) audiophiles & young > folks tend to move around a bit, so key objectives were 1. genuinely > musical output; 2. minimal visual intrusion & cabling; & 3. > adjustability to suit rooms of unknown size & shape. I can't stretch to > another couple of Brokklies but do have a couple of unused Transporter > SE's they can have, still leaving me with a spare "knobbed" Logitech > model to back up my Slim Devices branded one. So after a couple of > weeks, I thought I'd swap the connections to my Transporter's analogue > XLR outputs although it's a bit of a lash-up since my analogue XLR > cables are all only 1 metre long. > > Here's the point of this post: the audible effect was immediate: as if a > couple of plastic refuse sacks had been wrapped around the speakers. > Obviously I'm used to having pretty high-end gear, so in comparison to > no music system at all, I'm sure that the kids will still love it. I > certainly know what to point them to if they ask for an upgrade path, > though. > > Since much more knowledgeable folk than I have avowed that the > Transporter's DAC is effectively perfect from the standpoint of > audibility, what on earth is wrong with the Transporter's subsequent > analogue stage (which is the only other possible culprit)?? If I can > hear the effect on speakers I bought for just over £200, I'm losing > interest in attempting to "prove" anything to you lot, especially since > I have had so little interest from forum users in participating in my > proposed ABX test. > > Looking back through the years, it would appear that the general > approach on this forum used to be quite open-minded: by contrast, it > seems now to consist of a rump of the former members, most of whom dug > their fox-holes so long ago that nothing I did now would have any > resonance with any of you anyway, irrespective of statistical analysis I > might present. I'm disappointed to have formed this conclusion, but I'll > get over it - I've been disappointed before (several times actually). > > If you can't hear it, you can't hear it. There is no point in arguing > against a fact. If other people did hear it, they would be dismissed as > frauds or else some flaw in the test would be alleged - you can't be an > audiophile with poor hearing, after all, it would clearly be a > contradiction in terms. And you have all had that self-appointed status > for so long, well, it just stands to reason doesn't it... ? > :rolleyes: > > Happy listening to you all nevertheless, > > Dave :)
Given that it appears that no serious attempt was made to match levels, I'm searching for a reason why this anecdote should be given much weight. I won't even mention the issue of sighted bias and lack of time-synching of the music, because addressing those actually takes a little work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=106519
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