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Enclosed are the minutes of this weeks meeting
regards
Andrew
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Minutes of the 8th May 2025 Teleconference Austin-1456 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 9th May 2025
Attendees:
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Don Cragun, IEEE SA OR
Mark Brown
Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Eric Ackermann, CISPA
* General business
We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next one is
May 15, then we will take a break until June 5th.
Andrew noted that the project he is listed as leader for
in the ISO directory is now ISO/IEC/IEEE 9945. He took an action
to check on the status of the PSDO submission with Tom at IEEE.
* Open Business
Bug 1876: clarify, whether a trap action that is executed from a OPEN
context where set -e is ignored, would have set -e ignored, too
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1876
Andrew took an action to ask shell developers to comment on this
issue. (completed by sending an email to the reflector:
austin-group-l:archive/latest/37925).
Bug 864: Insufficient specification of storage requirements for synchronization
objects
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=864
AI: Andrew to contact Rich Felker to determine whether or not items
1 an 4 have been resolved by section 2.9.9 and to get suggested
wording for changes to address items 2 and 3. The action was
completed, but no response received as yet.
Bug 1904: LC_TIME era start_date (and end_date) possibly mis-specified
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=1904
This was discussed during the 2025-02-13 meeting:
Historically, there was no year 0 and the standard is worded
to reflect this fact. Is this what implementation actually do?
Andrew had completed an action to ask for input on what other
implementations do and some feedback has been received so need to
return to this on a future call.
* Current Business
Bug 1915: clarification of 2.6.5 field splitting of 2.5.2 special parameter $*
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1915
Accepted as marked, interpretation required, tc1-2024 tag.
Bug 1919: Add \A and \z to regular expressions (at least EREs) Accepted as
Marked
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1919
There is still some discussion on this item
Mark had completed his action to contact the python developers.
The Python community has decided to add \z for end-of-string (they
already had \A for beginning-of-string), aligning Python with this
proposal. We are getting ever closer to having a single notation
for beginning-of-string and end-of-string across platforms. The
Python developers rejected the \` and \' alternatives as they felt
they were hard to read, difficult to use on GitHub, and conflicted
with the general avoidance of backquotes in Python syntax.
Bug 1924: New word splitting requirements inappropriate in locales with
non-self-synchronising character encodings OPEN
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1924
We started on this item and there are proposed changes in the etherpa.
We will continue next time.
Next Steps
We will start on bug 1924 next time.
The next calls are on
Thu 2025-05-15 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
Thu 2025-05-22 No meeting
Thu 2025-05-29 No meeting
Thu 2025-06-05 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
The calls are for 90 minutes
Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)
Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.
Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net
An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd
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for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts.
Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup)
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