There is, of course, another explanation of the discrepencies between
the lute Falkenhagen is depicted as playing and what we normally
consider what a 'baroque' lute of the period is (other than lack of
precision on the part of the engraver - not unkown): that F posed for
his own image but that the engraver used another instrument (angelique)
to work up the details (also a not unkown practice).
MH
--- On Wed, 15/7/09, Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Roman Turovsky <r.turov...@verizon.net>
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Falkenhagen's baroque lute - was: Falkenhagen's
Angelique
To: "Lutelist" <l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Wednesday, 15 July, 2009, 2:29 AM
And neither does the rose.
RT
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Tayler" <[1]vidan...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <[2]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Falkenhagen's baroque lute - was: Falkenhagen's
Angelique
Thanks to Markus and Chris for the info--this is a very interesting
engraving.
I would love to get a look at the original,
because the strings are so carefully drawn, it
should be possible to look inside the pegbox and
see not only which pegs are empty but if they form some sort of
pattern.
I can't see why it would be an angelique, but of
course it would be difficult to see how it is tuned from the picture.
The peg end doesn't look that different from a
Hoffmann to me, although the body type does not seem familar.
dt
.At 05:44 PM 7/14/2009, you wrote:
>On the engraving Falckenhagen plays a converted angelique, so Howard's
>question is of little relevance here.
>RT
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Markus Lutz" <[3]mar...@gmlutz.de>
>To: "howard posner" <[4]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
>Cc: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu List" <[5]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:39 PM
>Subject: [LUTE] Falkenhagen's baroque lute - was: Falkenhagen's
Angelique
>
>
>>As far as I know, Falckenhagen neither wrote for Angelique nor played
this
>>instrument. But who knows?
>>
>>I would say this is a 13-course baroque lute, with Falckenhagen
playing
>>something like a C chord (hf,,,,4 = c'' g'' C).
>>
>>The only real question from this picture could be, if he played the
lute
>>single-stringed ...
>>
>>All of his know works are composed for baroque lute, sometimes in
>>ensemble. There's no need to assume that he played Angelique!
>>
>>Best regards
>>Markus
>>
>>howard posner schrieb:
>>>On Jul 14, 2009, at 12:16 PM, David Tayler wrote:
>>>
>>>I'm assuming you are referring to the concertos and the trios, which
>>>form the majority of his output, in particular Op 3. Are these all
>>>for Angelique?
>>>
>>>I wasn't referring to anything at all, just asking a very basic
>>>question: is there any known connection between Falkenhagen and the
>>>angelique?
>>>
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>>
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>>
>>Markus Lutz
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>>
>>88422 Bad Buchau
>>
>>Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89
>>Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90
>>Mail [7]mar...@gmlutz.de
>>
>>
>
>
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