Ahh, I see.  Do you know if there is a switch to disable HSTS?  (seems to
be a new behavior in m116)
Thanks,
-shez-


On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 8:22 PM Chris Thompson <cth...@chromium.org> wrote:

> This indicates that the upgrades are due to HSTS, so this is unrelated to
> HTTPS-Upgrades (this new feature). bloomberg.com is currently on the HSTS
> preload list, which also applies to subdomains.
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 5:18 PM Shezan Baig <shezbaig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I see the following in the netlog:
>>
>> t= 97 [st= 0]      TRANSPORT_SECURITY_STATE_SHOULD_UPGRADE_TO_SSL
>>
>> *                   --> get_sts_state_result = true  <--- this is false
>> in the m115 build*                   --> host = "
>> dsbeta.prod.bloomberg.com"
>>                    --> host_found_in_hsts_bypass_list = false
>>                    --> should_upgrade_to_ssl = true
>> t= 97 [st= 0]     +URL_REQUEST_START_JOB  [dt=25]
>>                    --> initiator = "not an origin"
>>                    --> load_flags = 65792 (CAN_USE_RESTRICTED_PREFETCH |
>> MAIN_FRAME_DEPRECATED)
>>                    --> method = "GET"
>>                    --> network_isolation_key = "http://bloomberg.com
>> http://bloomberg.com";
>>                    --> request_type = "main frame"
>>                    --> site_for_cookies = "SiteForCookies: {site=
>> http://bloomberg.com; schemefully_same=true}"
>>                    --> url = "
>> http://dsbeta.prod.bloomberg.com/vrs2021/viewer/index.html";
>> t= 97 [st= 0]        URL_REQUEST_REDIRECT_JOB
>>                      --> reason = "HSTS"
>> t= 97 [st= 0]        URL_REQUEST_FAKE_RESPONSE_HEADERS_CREATED
>>                      --> HTTP/1.1 307 Internal Redirect
>>                          Location:
>> https://dsbeta.prod.bloomberg.com/vrs2021/viewer/index.html
>>                          Cross-Origin-Resource-Policy: Cross-Origin
>>                          Non-Authoritative-Reason: HSTS
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 8:12 PM Shezan Baig <shezbaig...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am using a locally built chrome.exe (so not one of the Canary/Dev/Beta
>>> channels), and doing the following:
>>>
>>> 116.0.5845.14/chrome.exe --proxy-server=<internal-proxy> http://
>>> <internal-url>
>>>
>>> This causes the <internal-proxy> to get a "CONNECT <internal-url>:443",
>>> which unfortunately the proxy is not currently configured to handle
>>> properly (it blocks and times out after a minute).  I can fix the
>>> <internal-proxy> to handle it correctly, but rolling out that change may
>>> take a while.
>>>
>>> In the meantime, I'm trying to workaround the issue by doing:
>>>
>>> 116.0.5845.14/chrome.exe --disable-features=HttpsUpgrades
>>> --proxy-server=<internal-proxy> http://<internal-url>
>>>
>>> However, that doesn't seem to make any difference (proxy is still
>>> getting a "CONNECT <internal-url>:443").
>>>
>>> Note that our previous build (115.0.5790.32) does not do these upgrades,
>>> so I don't need any disable-feature switch for the m115 build.  However,
>>> the m116 build does these upgrades with or without the disable-feature
>>> switch.
>>>
>>> Also note that these are locally built chromium binaries (not "Google
>>> Chrome"), so it will not participate in the 50% experiments.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your quick response!
>>> -shez-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 7:47 PM Chris Thompson <cth...@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Could you provide more information on what is occurring (or maybe
>>>> better: file a bug at crbug.com/new with details and link it here)?
>>>> That's the correct flag to force-disable the feature (you can also disable
>>>> it during the experimental period in chrome://flags/#https-upgrades).
>>>>
>>>> Note that Chrome has other existing features which upgrade certain
>>>> navigations to HTTPS (such as schemeless URLs entered into the Omnibox), so
>>>> you may be seeing those instead. HTTPS-Upgrades is currently only enabled
>>>> at 50% in Chrome Canary/Dev/Beta.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 4:43 PM Shezan Baig <shezbaig...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>> Is there a way to disable this feature?  I tried running the browser
>>>>> with " --disable-features=HttpsUpgrades", but it still seems to be
>>>>> performing these upgrades.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> -shez-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 7:13:38 PM UTC-4 cth...@chromium.org
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Contact emailscth...@chromium.org, dad...@google.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>> https://github.com/dadrian/https-upgrade/blob/main/explainer.md
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Specificationhttps://github.com/whatwg/fetch/pull/1655
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Summary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Automatically and optimistically upgrade all main-frame navigations
>>>>>> to HTTPS, with fast fallback to HTTP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blink componentInternals>Network>SSL
>>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Internals%3ENetwork%3ESSL>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TAG reviewFetch change process does not mention a TAG review,
>>>>>> therefore this is N/A (https://github.com/whatwg/fetch#pull-requests)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TAG review statusNot applicable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Risks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/800) Firefox
>>>>>> is offering a similar feature already in their private browsing mode by
>>>>>> default
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *WebKit*: No signal (
>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/185)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals. This feature is not exposed directly
>>>>>> to web developers or users. However, HTTPS adoption is now standard
>>>>>> practice (>90% of page loads in Chrome use HTTPS), and automatically
>>>>>> upgrading navigations to HTTPS would avoid unnecessary redirects from 
>>>>>> HTTP
>>>>>> to HTTPS for site owners. The `upgrade-insecure-requests` header has some
>>>>>> similar functionality, and according to HTTP-Archive is found on ~6% of 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> requests.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chrome will upgrade these navigations to HTTPS using a 307 internal
>>>>>> redirect, which will be visible in the Network panel of Developer Tools.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?No
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Currently not available on Android WebView. We are implementing this
>>>>>> first for Chrome and will consider bringing this to WebView (likely as an
>>>>>> embedder opt-in) as follow up work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>>> ?No
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flag namehttps-upgrades
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?True
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1394910
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Launch bughttps://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4235192
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sample links
>>>>>> http://example.com will upgrade to https://example.com.
>>>>>> http://www.alwayshttp.com will upgrade to https://www.alwayshttp.com but
>>>>>> fall back to http://www.alwayshttp.com because the site doesn't
>>>>>> support HTTPS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>> Shipping on desktop 115
>>>>>> Shipping on Android 115
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are planning to do a field trial to gradually roll out this
>>>>>> feature to Chrome clients in Chrome 115.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat
>>>>>> or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github
>>>>>> issues in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/fetch/pull/1655
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6056181032812544
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype:
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/mgJqym5-Xek/m/0EAN6v7CCQAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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