Excellent. Here's three grant sites just to get started.

https://www.ieeefoundation.org/Grants

https://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/118.nsf/eng/00002.html

https://www.supermoney.com/disability-loans-grants/

There's an interesting looking Grant search site at grants.gov, but I couldn't 
use it
because apparently it requires javascript. Tsk.

Rudy

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:59:25PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion 
wrote:
> I have done them many times as a nonprofit sector consultant.
> Granted, I will need to go back and read more carefully.
> But there are many paths to funding here, depending on where those involved
> are located, how wide the scope etc.
> Funding for  tax exempt organizations  fair better, but cause related
> sponsorship, or  even social impact investing can be doors too.
> Regardless of the estimates  provided adding 10% on top is also wise.
> I am happy to help as well, if the browser opens doors across the board.
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
> 
> > We should be able to get you a grant for this sort of project. I mean, this 
> > is exactly
> > the kind of project grants are meant for.
> > How much would you need overall?
> > Has anyone on this list ever written a grant application?
> > I've written exactly one, for a literary grant and was rejected.
> > But I'd be willing to do some research for where and how to apply unless 
> > someone knows  this off the cuff.
> > 
> > 
> > Rudy
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 09:35:40PM +0200, Linux for blind general 
> > discussion wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > > 
> > > Do i understand correctly, you wanna hire me to develop a command line 
> > > browser?
> > > 
> > > its a good amount of work but very doable utilizing a modern browser 
> > > engine.
> > > 
> > > Well i could definitely do this.
> > > If you are serious, you can contact me per mail if there is something 
> > > concrete:
> > > chrys (at) linux-a11y.org
> > > 
> > > I???m a kind of a daywalker. I???m not blind by my own. My girlfriend and 
> > > a lot of friends are. So i know very well whats needed to make pseudo UIs 
> > > for command line optimized for screenreader. I created my own screen 
> > > reader (fenrir in just a couple of weeks and learned a lot while doing 
> > > that. All That makes me really efficient working on accessibility related 
> > > software and was also the reason why i was hired by F123 at its time.
> > > 
> > > My December project was completely reworking OCRdesktop ( if you know 
> > > that). In the last couple of months i continue working on orca for an 
> > > plugin  driven architecture. I also added an OCR plugin for testing ;). 
> > > Quite basic right now but fully functional. Currently i concentrate on 
> > > rework orcas settings handling to be decentral for the plugin 
> > > architecture. Thats really a chal  and takes a couple of month (a lot of 
> > > work needed and i do it mostly in my spare time, so i have to pay my 
> > > bills first ;), but once complete,we can remove a lot of smelling old 
> > > code after that )
> > > 
> > > Cheers chrys
> > > 
> > > > Am 13.04.2022 um 18:39 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion 
> > > > <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > 
> > > > ???I'm mostly sure Google's foisitng standard view on everyone 
> > > > nowadays, they are supposed to be nixing third party stuff in May or 
> > > > June however so...
> > > > 
> > > > And yes. I too want that text mode browser. I think we need to figure 
> > > > out a way to pool resources and grab Chrys87 on Github and go here, can 
> > > > you make this, we've got X amount of resources, money, food, beer, 
> > > > coffeee, cats, etc, so how much do you need to make it? I mean. I want 
> > > > that text mode browser. There's bits and pieces in existing browsers, 
> > > > yes but nobody's ever packaged them all together.
> > > > 
> > > > The reason I said Chrys is because....1. I'm half expecting Chrys to 
> > > > leap in here and go you want me to do what? But the bigger reason is, 
> > > > well, look at DragonFM, it shows that you can have a console file 
> > > > manager with desktop like shortcuts that does all the functionality of 
> > > > something like Caja or Nautlius, but in a terminal, with standard 
> > > > keyboard shortcuts.
> > > > 
> > > > Now if that browser got made, and I could ditch FF, I probably would. 
> > > > No...Brow.sh isn't a suitable replacement, not by a long shot. I can 
> > > > rig up startx to do Orca+Firefox, sure, but....
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 04:30:18PM +0000, Linux for blind general 
> > > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > I think the most important things to remember here are that:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. People are different and that's okay.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2. Blind people are just as diverse as people in general.
> > > > > 
> > > > > At the end of the day, debating Mutt versus Thunderbird has about as
> > > > > much impact as debating Coke versus Pepsi. Hardcore fans of either
> > > > > aren't likely to change their mind for any reason, there's no way of
> > > > > doing an objective comparison, and just as how which cola is better
> > > > > comes down to the individual's tastebuds, which e-mail client is
> > > > > easier to setup and use ultimately comes down to which software
> > > > > idiosyncrasies the end user is more comfortable with.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Though, for what it's worth, just as I'm not a fan of colas and much
> > > > > prefer Dr. Pepper when it comes to caramel colored fizzy drinks, I'm
> > > > > not a fan of e-mail clients and prefer to just use my e-mail's web
> > > > > interface... and the last time I checked my e-mail on a machine other
> > > > > than my personal one, doing so was as simple as launching Firefox,
> > > > > typing gmail.google.com into the address bar, entering my e-mail
> > > > > address and password, and then once logged in, I just used what of
> > > > > NVDA's navigational hotkeys matched Orca's to check level 3 headings
> > > > > for how many unread messages were in my inbox and spam, and jump to
> > > > > the checkbox on the first message in the message list... Granted, that
> > > > > was years ago, so its entirely possible paranoid security on Google's
> > > > > part would make logging in difficult, and they might try forcing me to
> > > > > use their bogged down with JavaScript standard view instead of
> > > > > respecting my preference for the HTML view.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Granted, the only time I've ever used an e-mail client was theGmail
> > > > > app on android 2.2 back when I still had a working eyeball, so I
> > > > > suspect I'd find both Mutt and Thunderbird perplexing if I ever gave
> > > > > them a try, and the only things I know about SMTP, pop3, and imap is
> > > > > the first stands for simple mail transfer protocol and they all have
> > > > > something to do with the technical details of e-mail most people are
> > > > > ignorant of... Though, I'd probably give Mutt or Alpine a try befor
> > > > > Thunderbird or whatever Chromium's companion e-mail client is called
> > > > > if only because my setup doesn't really let me run GUI applications
> > > > > other than Firefox.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And while I agree the massive overlap in key bindings makes switching
> > > > > between GUI applications easy, and its great that Micro exists for
> > > > > those wanting to reduce their GUI dependence without having to learn
> > > > > an editor with key bindings that predate standardization, I must
> > > > > confess that I'm so used to nano's key bindings that I wish I could
> > > > > make Firefox switch over to nano-like bindings when I focuse a
> > > > > multi-line textbox and the only modern convention I miss when typing
> > > > > in nano is the ability to select text by holding shift and using
> > > > > arrow/navigation keys...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Honestly, the application I most want that doesn't seem to exist would
> > > > > probably be a text-mode web browser that:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 1. Arrow and navigation keys move around the page like in an editor.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 2. Has Firefox-like keybindings for all the common web browser 
> > > > > functions.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 3. Has Orca-like keybindings for page navigation.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 4. Has a browse/focus mode toggle equivalent to Orca+A.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 5. Forces pages with multi-column layouts into single column for
> > > > > presentation(or at least as the option to)... This is to avoid
> > > > > situations where a console screen reader tries to interleave text from
> > > > > a list of links in the left column with the page's main content in the
> > > > > center/right column.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 6. Supports the functional aspects of JavaScript, HTML5, etc. while
> > > > > ignoring the eyecandy aspects.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 7. Disables rich web content by default, but has a keyboard shortcut
> > > > > to activate it for the current page and a menu for fine tuning which
> > > > > rich content is allowed, and whether the allowance is temporary or
> > > > > permanent(essentially providing No-Script-like functionality).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 8. embeds nano(or the text-mode text editor of the user's choice)
> > > > > within focused textboxes(so, if I wanted to post the contents of a
> > > > > file on my hard drive via a web form, instead of opening a second tab,
> > > > > navigating to the file on my system, and copy and pasting it into the
> > > > > form, I could just go into thetext box, get an embedded nano window,
> > > > > and use Nano's insert from another file command... and if there's
> > > > > multiple files, I could just do that repeatedly... and unlike with
> > > > > Firefox's address bar, I'd have tab completion for getting the path to
> > > > > the file).
> > > > > 
> > > > > 9. The ability to import bookmarks, saved passwords, etc. from a
> > > > > Firefox(and other popular browsers) profile would be a nice bonus,
> > > > > especially if it was done via a supplementary package that could be
> > > > > removed after migrating.
> > > > > 
> > > > > There are probably other features I'd want in my dream text-mode web
> > > > > browser, but something that provides a remotely similar browsing
> > > > > experience to Firefox+Orca would be amazing and would probably be
> > > > > enough to make me ditch the GUI altogether... though I confess, a
> > > > > simple means of launching arbitrary GUI applications in a kiosk-like
> > > > > manner with Orca would be nice for those rare occasions I'm curious to
> > > > > give a GUI application a try... sadly, maintaining a full desktop is
> > > > > over kill with how much I live in the GUI, and the script I use to
> > > > > launch Firefox with Orca suffers from crippling overspecialization and
> > > > > its someone else's work that I don't begin to understand how to adapt
> > > > > to applications beyond the handful it was designed for.
> > > > > 
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