The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 393 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i Re: Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i Re: Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i South Bay Crackdown- Diff oil for '04 M3 RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Urban Myth ??
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:09:32 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I drive fast with conditions and traffic permitting, and I believe it can be done safely. I have never been in an accident which one could attribute to luck or to the fact that I always assume the other drivers are less aware than I am on the road, and I leave a margin of error for their mistakes. I also never drive fast on a road I don't know (especially the twisties). After driving at 130 mph the other day, on an open and safe road, I almost wiped out my car at about 40 mph because we got a sudden snow shower and I was caught out on the road where I didn't want to be. Did the old spin left, spin right routine but managed to recover, and gave the other motorists a great show. So, you never know... Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Melton Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 2:53 PM To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay If the odds were they would only kill themselves and those in the car with them, then I would say they are simply cleansing the gene pool, but, it is likely they will take out some innocent driver or pedestrian as well. :-( -Tom >>> "Paul M. Moriarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/9/2007 2:26 PM >>> There have been several young people killed in the South Bay in the past year who were not aware of how much more skill you need to drive safely at 80-110 than you do at 50-80. I cringe whenever I see a teenager/young adult go flying by me in a modded ricer at 100+ (and, if you drive I-280 at off-peak times, it is fairly common to be passed by someone cruising at that speed). Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:35:12 -0800 From: "Curtis Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Not in the Galaxy where I drive. When motorists see a cop on the shoulder, the f*ckers hit the brakes, then don't get back up to cruising speed for a mile or so. They do this even if they're under the speed limit when they see a cop. Guilty conscience? Don't know how fast they're going? Don't know the speed limit? Or just plain stupid? Curt Ingraham Oakland, CA Dennis Liu reported: > ... They sometimes work together, one officer radioing another farther down > the > highway with four on motorcycles and one in a patrol car. Other times they > stay on the same highway, but go after scofflaws separately. Some motorists > see a trooper on the shoulder busy writing a ticket and zoom off, thinking > the officer is too busy and they'll never see another for miles, a > reasonable assumption in the past. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:49:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Fri, February 9, 2007 2:35 pm, Curtis Ingraham said: > Guilty conscience? Don't know > how fast they're going? Don't know the speed limit? Or just plain > stupid? Yes, to all. :-) Jim Bassett ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 13:18:57 -0800 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Cc: Gold Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So, I may be looking at a '92 325i sedan tomorrow. Besides the fact that they are non-vanos (I've heard they are lower on power but more robust) and have a different suspension than the later cars, are there any pro's and con's I need to be aware of (or visibly look for)? Can the suspension be upgraded with later pieces? Sincerely, Mark Gold Sacramento Chapter BMWCCA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 02:43:48 +0000 (UTC) From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> other than Vanos there were some fit and finish issues with the 92s interiors blistering, glove box doors. You can use suspension bits from later cars, though the M suspensions have differences that make a swap awkward. Look at suspension bits (ball joints, rear mounts trailing arm bushings radiatorwaterpumpthermostat rear main seal is a mess to do Head gaskets. Buy a set of bilsteins and H&R springs. Marc Plante 1993 325i (sold @230k) 1997 M3/4 ----Original Message---- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Feb 9, 2007 13:18 To: "UUC Digest"<bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Cc: "Gold Mark"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subj: [UUC] Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i So, I may be looking at a '92 325i sedan tomorrow. Besides the fact that they are non-vanos (I've heard they are lower on power but more robust) and have a different suspension than the later cars, are there any pro's and con's I need to be aware of (or visibly look for)? Can the suspension be upgraded with later pieces? Sincerely, Mark Gold Sacramento Chapter BMWCCA Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 19:05:30 -0800 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Marc, AFAIK the '92's don't have VANOS, so that shouldn't be an issue. The owner claims to have all service records so I'll see when the cooling system was last serviced as well as any mention about the steering components. I found out from someone that understeer.com carries an upgrade kit that sells for $165, although I can probably get the same parts locally from one of our independent shops. Thanks for the heads up. Mark Gold Sacramento Chapter BMWCCA On Feb 9, 2007, at 6:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > other than Vanos there were some fit and finish issues with the 92s > interiors blistering, glove box doors. You can use suspension bits > from > later cars, though the M suspensions have differences that make a swap > awkward. > > Look at suspension bits (ball joints, rear mounts trailing arm > bushings > radiatorwaterpumpthermostat > rear main seal is a mess to do > Head gaskets. > > Buy a set of bilsteins and H&R springs. > > Marc Plante > 1993 325i (sold @230k) > 1997 M3/4 > > ----Original Message---- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Feb 9, 2007 13:18 > To: "UUC Digest"<bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> > Cc: "Gold Mark"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subj: [UUC] Pro's and Con's of a '92 325i > > So, > > I may be looking at a '92 325i sedan tomorrow. Besides the fact that > they are non-vanos (I've heard they are lower on power but more > robust) and have a different suspension than the later cars, are > there any pro's and con's I need to be aware of (or visibly look > for)? Can the suspension be upgraded with later pieces? > > > Sincerely, > > Mark Gold > Sacramento Chapter BMWCCA > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 22:08:58 +0000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: South Bay Crackdown- Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Start of Rant. Really, people, the cause of death is bad driving, not speed, and not excessive speed. Speed, the time derivative of distance, is simply a physics data point. It changes, based on throttle position, brakes and other factors. Speed laws are easy to enforce, gven the toys most every law enforcement department has in their inventory. And profitable, as well. when was the last time you heard an insurance company claim their premiums were going down for drivers with lots of moving violations? And in my state (Colorado), the moving violation that gets all the attention involves a radar or laser speed measuring device. (Ever see a Turn-Signal Enforcement Unit? Me neither.) That said, it has always been my opinion that speed limits are set to keep the least capable driver safe from him (or her) self, and other highway users safe from them, in the majority of circumstances. Period. It's a necessary evil, simply because, in a society with millions and millions of folks driving on the roads, some way of helping the average Joe or Jane navigate on four wheels has to be established. Laws of physics, and the human tendency to pay no attention, always apply. Going the speed limit allows most people to stumble around most corners without upsetting the apple cart, or whatever rolling living room they happen to be lounging in at the time. I believe the real cause of automobile wrecks is: Bad driving. Not speed, not icy roads, not flat tires, not sudden wildlife incursions, not any of the things that are routinely ascribed as causative factors when an "Accident Report" is filed. Accidents result in wet pants; auto collisions are not accidental, they result from the deliberate failure of the driver to take the necessary steps to avoid hitting another object. Those steps may include maintaining the vehicle in safe working order, preparing the driver for the complicated task of driving, slowing or speeding up appropriately, steering, braking, swerving, waiting, yielding, going, or even staying home. ALL have the following in common- the driver has to be paying FULL ATTENTION to their driving, and that includes accomodating the behaviors of other drivers in the vicinity. If you crash your (or into another) car for any reason, you probably aren't driving the car safely, although you may be sitting behind the wheel as it travels down the road. You are a passenger. A spectator. You are just along for the ride. Please wear your seat belt, nomex, and a good full coverage helmet. There's no reason the EMT arriving on the scene should have to be grossed out by the manifestation of your inability to drive safely. Of course, there will always be some other idiot who uses your car as a berm, as has happened to me on several occasions, but, since I was stopped at a red signal behind a line of other cars which were also stopped, my mobility was limited. I could have stopped with a larger distance between me and the car ahead, kept the tranny in first, and goosed it over to the shoulder when I observed the guy behind me looking down and failing to see that I was not moving, but I didn't. My bad. I know better now. Still, that is not an accident, I was unable to maneuver due to zero speed. The citizen who planted his Lexus in my trunk was cited for failing to stop. He was not paying attention, and this resulted in his failure to apply brakes and stop safely. His actions (I think he was busy dialing a number on his cell phone) caused the collision. If his action had been 'looking where I am going,' he would have had the opportunity to apply brakes and stop, just like the five drivers ahead of him had done at the red light. If the US had a national driver training and testing curriculum like some other countries, we wouldn't be killing 45,000 or more people every year on American highways as evidence that we really don't know how to drive. If we had a mandatory vehicle safety inspection program, at least there would be some hope that safety equipment was working, and that applying the brakes could be expected to stop the car in a reasonable distance. If there was a 'Poundage Penalty' assessed on very large vehicles (called SUVs by the industry, and which I call Stupid Uncontrollable Vehicles) because of their inefficiency, danger to other drivers, and tendency to crush anything they hit, then fewer people would drive these things that are remarkably similar to living rooms, complete with lounges and porch lights. Transporting passengers is best and most safely done in passenger cars, not these "F**d Exterminator" type vehicles. Bad driving kills; just not the bad driver, not nearly often enough. End of rant. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:34:24 -0500 From: "Andy G." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Diff oil for '04 M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Looking for a authoritative answer on which gear oil should be used in an '04 M3 differential. There seems to be confusion at my area dealerships whether the oil specified in SIB 330102 supersedes the original oil or if it should only be used in chattering diffs. The choices are: 83 22 1 470 080 (Castrol SAF-XJ) - original? 83 22 2 282 583 (Castrol SAF-XJ with additional friction modifiers) - called for in SIB I would also appreciate it if someone could confirm the size of container for the 080 part number. I have a call in to BMWNA but I have very low expectations of accurate and timely info from them. - Andy G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 16:28:41 -0800 From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Finally, Paul mentioned: > E = 1/2mv^2 Unfortunately, he didn't take it to completion. The amount of energy needed to be safely and effectively absorbed or dissipated in order to keep a vehicle occupant alive increases as the square of the velocity - therefore, as in the example given by another - at 40 mph, the energy is: 1/2m 40x40 = 1/2 m 1600 = 800m whereas at 80 mph it is 1/2 m 80 x 80 = 1/2 m 6400 = 3200m - -i.e. 4 times the energy at 100 mph it is 5000m so, just to be pedantic, 5000/800 = an increase of 50/8 = 6.25 times the energy for 2.5 times the velocity add that to the fact that things happen really fast at speed and the minor detail that it "is not the long fall, but rather the abrupt halt at the end that will kill you" - - - - Harvey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:36:42 -0800 From: Harvey Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary's input would indicate/imply/extrapolate(?) that current designs can absorb sufficient energy up to ~450m (where, thinking about it, m is probably the mass of the occupant) in terms of "survivability". Harvey On Feb 9, 2007, at 6:36 PM, Gary Derian wrote: > Any crash with a delta V of 30 mph or more is very severe. Dale > Earnhardt died in a 44 mph delta V crash. > > Crash energy is a factor, but braking distance and perception > reaction distance are large factors also. > > Gary Derian > >> Finally, Paul mentioned: >> >> > E = 1/2mv^2 >> >> Unfortunately, he didn't take it to completion. The amount of >> energy needed to be safely and effectively absorbed or dissipated >> in order to keep a vehicle occupant alive increases as the square >> of the velocity - therefore, as in the example given by another >> - at 40 mph, the energy is: >> >> 1/2m 40x40 = 1/2 m 1600 = 800m >> >> whereas at 80 mph it is >> >> 1/2 m 80 x 80 = 1/2 m 6400 = 3200m - -i.e. 4 times the energy >> >> at 100 mph it is 5000m >> >> so, just to be pedantic, 5000/800 = an increase of 50/8 = 6.25 >> times the energy for 2.5 times the velocity >> >> add that to the fact that things happen really fast at speed and >> the minor detail that it "is not the long fall, but rather the >> abrupt halt at the end that will kill you" - - - - >> >> Harvey >> >> >> >> >> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ >> bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> _____ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the >> BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 23:16:27 -0800 From: David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am able to monitor the CHP freqs from the Mexico border all the way up past LA into Ventura and the CHP seem to have been on a bit of a crackdown for the last few weeks. They have even been using laser on the 91 fwy on a regular basis which is highly unusual for the So Cal area. I personally think that if you get caught speeding you totally deserve the ticket, after all, if you were paying appropriate attention for your speed you would not have been caught. Even more OT: You would not believe how quick people call in your car description and license plate to the CHP for speeds over 90mph. These days the cell calls go right to the CHP dispatch so the report of your actions goes out very quick. Not so long ago the cell calls for 911 were routed differently so these types of reports were useless, but they get our really quick now, and people will rat you out for 85-90. If you have never listened to the CHP (or whatever highway patrol you have) you might find it interesting. Dave T ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 06:57:46 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> People shouldn't be talking on cells when they drive, so shame on them on two counts! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Thomas Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 2:16 AM To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] RE>OT: CHP Cracking down I am able to monitor the CHP freqs from the Mexico border all the way up past LA into Ventura and the CHP seem to have been on a bit of a crackdown for the last few weeks. They have even been using laser on the 91 fwy on a regular basis which is highly unusual for the So Cal area. I personally think that if you get caught speeding you totally deserve the ticket, after all, if you were paying appropriate attention for your speed you would not have been caught. Even more OT: You would not believe how quick people call in your car description and license plate to the CHP for speeds over 90mph. These days the cell calls go right to the CHP dispatch so the report of your actions goes out very quick. Not so long ago the cell calls for 911 were routed differently so these types of reports were useless, but they get our really quick now, and people will rat you out for 85-90. If you have never listened to the CHP (or whatever highway patrol you have) you might find it interesting. Dave T Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:38:39 -0500 From: "Dave Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: OT - CHPs cracking down in South Bay Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *Rant on It's not speed that kills but differential speed - you know, between the speed your going and that guy doing 55 in the fast lane with the rolling living room. Personally I think that poor driving skill and lack of "manners" such as obeying the slower traffic keep right sign contribute to road rage situations. How many times have you seen traffic being held up by the one person actually obeying the speed limit in the fast lane and then watch as people try to navigate through the other two lanes of slower traffic to pass this one person. But driver training is for the most part a joke, although recent legislation in IN and KY have made improvements (my home area), the establishment (government / law enforcement) still focus on what is the easiest to conclusively prove in court, speeding. Imagine the local prosecutor trying to conclusively proving that you spent too much time in the fast lane and did not yield to faster oncoming traffic from behind while driving at the maximum posted speed limit of 55, even if that speed limit is set artificiality low. Nope, easier to produce evidence that you were going x mph over the speed limit from a fancy scientific instrument that is hard to disprove. Besides, we all know that traffic enforcement is a very lucrative for the districts a ticket is written in and politically palatable in the name of safety. If it was safety they truly wanted they could hand out hours of community service instead of paying a fine. I'm sure that teenager would think twice about doing a 100mph down a public road in his riced-up-tin-can-exhaust-NOS-equipped-lime-green Honda SI-R ABZXYZ something or other if instead of paying a $100 fine he had to do 100 hours of community service picking up trash from the road on a cold winter day. I would think twice. Why it might even cut down on littering as well. One last thing to rant about on this topic, on a new section of five lane highway that I travel on a daily basis, it's also a well known speed zone. However, the passing lane is rarely full and I observe that several people that are passing cars on the right instead of pulling into the passing lane to the left. The logic for this is that the cops sit on the left median on this stretch and ticket cars closest to them. If you are across several lanes of traffic then your chances are better of not being ticketed because the flow of traffic blocks line of sight to you, but the flow of traffic is disrupted more by the drivers weaving in and around the slower cars. Doesn't exactly contribute to the safe flow of traffic does it? Safer, more intelligent enforcement of traffic laws should be the goal of established law enforcement along with legislation to increase driver training programs that actually teach people how to drive and not just scare them in "driver school" with crash aftermath and alcohol related training material. Programs such as Street Survival and similar should be encouraged. Rant off* Dave Arnold 95 //M3 Hellrot with license plate "HI OFCR" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:05:07 -0600 From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Senior Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Uucdigest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Urban Myth ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anyone know the truth of this ?? Or got any other solutions to resolving the dilemma ? BP WHAT TO DO IF YOU GET A TRAFFIC TICKET: >>This advice was sent by a retired State Farm agent! >>This system has been tried and it works in every >>state. >>If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red >>light, or whatever the case may be, you're going to >>get points on your license and a surcharge on your >>auto insurance. This is a method to insure that you DO >>NOT get the points. >>When you get your fine, send in a check to pay for it. >>If the fine is $79.00 make the check out for $82.00, >>some small amount over the fine. The system will then >>have to send you back a check for the difference. >>However, here is the trick: DO NOT CASH THE REFUND >>CHECK! Throw it away! >>Points are not assessed to your license until all >>Financial Transactions are complete. If you do not >>cash the check, then the transactions are NOT >>complete. The system has received its money and is >>satisfied and will no longer bother you. >>This information comes from an unmentionable computer >>company that sets up the standard databases used by >>every state. >>Send this to everyone you know. You never know when >>they may need a break. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
