The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 394 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Urban Myth ?? Re: Urban Myth ?? Re: Urban Myth ?? Re: Urban Myth ?? Re: Urban Myth ?? Speed Kills? Need Carfax and shop info Re: Need Carfax and shop info Re: Need Carfax and shop info Re: Need Carfax and shop info Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Re: Urban Myth ?? Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) Brake light problems
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:15:54 -0800 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Bill Proud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Uucdigest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Urban Myth ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I believe its a myth. If you can, go to traffic school (which you can only do once every 18 months in Cali) which will help keep the points and associated insurance hike off your record. Some violations cannot be "fixed" with traffic school. On Feb 10, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Bill Proud wrote: > Anyone know the truth of this ?? Or got any other solutions to > resolving the dilemma ? > BP > > WHAT TO DO IF YOU GET A TRAFFIC TICKET: >>> This advice was sent by a retired State Farm agent! >>> This system has been tried and it works in every >>> state. >>> If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red >>> light, or whatever the case may be, you're going to >>> get points on your license and a surcharge on your >>> auto insurance. This is a method to insure that you DO >>> NOT get the points. >>> When you get your fine, send in a check to pay for it. >>> If the fine is $79.00 make the check out for $82.00, >>> some small amount over the fine. The system will then >>> have to send you back a check for the difference. >>> However, here is the trick: DO NOT CASH THE REFUND >>> CHECK! Throw it away! >>> Points are not assessed to your license until all >>> Financial Transactions are complete. If you do not >>> cash the check, then the transactions are NOT >>> complete. The system has received its money and is >>> satisfied and will no longer bother you. >>> This information comes from an unmentionable computer >>> company that sets up the standard databases used by >>> every state. >>> Send this to everyone you know. You never know when >>> they may need a break. > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 22:02:06 -0500 From: neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Urban Myth ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's just another tired old internet urban myth. Your MVR (motor vehicle report) points are assessed as soon as the violation is updated to your MVR. It has nothing to do with the payment. That is handled by the department of state/courts, which reports the violation(s) to the secretary of state/BMV, who assesses the MVR points. Underpayment may result in additional penalties, but overpayment will only result in a slightly emptier wallet. Your insurance company may never find out about the violation, as neither the court nor BMV report anything to the insurance companies and vice versa, as most are not in the habit of regularly ordering MVRs. Random maybe, but not regular, unless you have a colorful claim history or some other reason, such as an at-fault accident, prompts a household MVR review. It may be decades before an MVR is run (the longest span I've seen is 23 years). If they do discover it, they will assess any surcharges based on their own internal scale, which may or may not match the BMV's scale (i.e., 2 points for a 1-10 over speed), and it will be based on the MVR as of that day. The only sure-fire way to avoid this is not speed. Always check Snopes (and the like): http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/ticket.asp Neil >WHAT TO DO IF YOU GET A TRAFFIC TICKET: > > >>>>>This advice was sent by a retired State Farm agent! >>>>>This system has been tried and it works in every >>>>>state. >>> >Anyone know the truth of this ?? >Or got any other solutions to resolving the dilemma ? >BP > -- Get 20% Off CoffeeCup Web Design Software Use this code when you checkout: 226STS -------------------- www.getcoffeecup.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:41:41 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Urban Myth ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 10, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Bill Proud wrote: > Anyone know the truth of this ?? Or got any other solutions to > resolving the dilemma ? > BP <http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/ticket.asp> - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:18:13 -0500 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Urban Myth ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Never visited www.snopes.com, hmmm? Rule of thumb: if the e-mail reads "forward to everyone you know", delete it immediately and blacklist the sender. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Senior Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Uucdigest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: [UUC] Urban Myth ?? Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:05:07 -0600 > Anyone know the truth of this ?? > Or got any other solutions to resolving the dilemma ? > BP > > WHAT TO DO IF YOU GET A TRAFFIC TICKET: > >>This advice was sent by a retired State Farm agent! > >>This system has been tried and it works in every > >>state. > >>If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red > >>light, or whatever the case may be, you're going to > >>get points on your license and a surcharge on your > >>auto insurance. This is a method to insure that you DO > >>NOT get the points. > >>When you get your fine, send in a check to pay for it. > >>If the fine is $79.00 make the check out for $82.00, > >>some small amount over the fine. The system will then > >>have to send you back a check for the difference. > >>However, here is the trick: DO NOT CASH THE REFUND > >>CHECK! Throw it away! > >>Points are not assessed to your license until all > >>Financial Transactions are complete. If you do not > >>cash the check, then the transactions are NOT > >>complete. The system has received its money and is > >>satisfied and will no longer bother you. > >>This information comes from an unmentionable computer > >>company that sets up the standard databases used by > >>every state. > >>Send this to everyone you know. You never know when > >>they may need a break. > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > t.com > > > __________________________________________________________ > ________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, > enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of > the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com - Rob Levinson UUC Motorwerks * 908-874-9092 * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:24:13 -0600 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Urban Myth ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What, you didn't get that check from Microsoft when you forwarded that email? I sent it to a 100 people and made millions. :-) Alex Ps: if you forward this message to at least 5 people, you will have good luck tomorrow. > Never visited www.snopes.com, hmmm? > > Rule of thumb: if the e-mail reads "forward to everyone you > know", delete it immediately and blacklist the sender. > > - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 10:42:26 -0800 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Speed Kills? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Someone wrote: > I cringe whenever I see a teenager/young adult go flying > by me in a modded ricer at 100+ (and, if you drive I-280 > at off-peak times, it is fairly common to be passed by > someone cruising at that speed). When I'm in the SUV on 280 and I look down at the "modded ricers" as they pass at high speeds the kids are usually text messaging and/or watching videos on a big LCD screen... I've noticed a direct inverse correlation between exhaust pipe & wing size and driving skill (the guys with a rear wing bigger than the wing on a single engine plane and a one foot + exhaust pipe are ALWAYS bad drivers)... Kevin Kelly BMW CCA 50039 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:12:05 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Need Carfax and shop info Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Group, I am in need of a Carfax report, if you can help please email. I may need a pre-purchase inspection, anyone have any experience with First Class Automotive or The Car Place in Raleigh, North Carolina? Both are listed on BIMRS.org. Thank you, Matt Weimer ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:26:38 -0600 From: "Dennis Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Matt Weimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Need Carfax and shop info Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why anyone would have the money to buy a car, but not want to spend the $25 for unlimited CarFax reports is beyond me. That said, there are cases where CarFax will not let you buy reports - you have used it previously in the last 12 months or ran too many reports, etc. This has happened to me and to folks I know. The last time I had a CarFax account (about 5 months ago) and did an admittedly un-scientific comparison with Experian's http://www.autocheck.com/ service. A subscriber to that service and I exchanged VINs including some we knew were of totalled and rebuilt cars and wrecked ones. In every case except one, Experian had the same or more info as CarFax including one truck that I KNOW was salvage that CarFax said was clean. The one thing AutoCheck missed was a minor incident in a car I used to own - CarFax had it, AutoCheck did not. So the next time I am in the used car market, I think I will spend my $25 with AutoCheck - you get 60 days (not 30) of unlimited reports and hopefully none of the CarFax "treat you like a crook" attitude you can get if you run too many reports or a variety of cars. So if CarFax will not sell you a report, try AutoCheck. And by all means, do the pre-purchase inspection you are planning. Dennis On 2/10/07, Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Group, > > I am in need of a Carfax report, if you can help > please email. > > I may need a pre-purchase inspection, anyone have any > experience with First Class Automotive or The Car > Place in Raleigh, North Carolina? Both are listed on > BIMRS.org. > > Thank you, > > Matt Weimer > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:55:51 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Need Carfax and shop info Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Dennis, Thank you for the insight regarding the differences between AutoCheck and CarFax. I *never* put my faith in any type of vin check system to report all accidents/flood/etc. This is why I firmly believe a pre-purchase inspection by experienced folks is important. In my case the vehicle is not conveniently located for a personal once over so another set of eyes is a must. Matt Weimer --- Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why anyone would have the money to buy a car, but > not want to spend > the $25 for unlimited CarFax reports is beyond me. > > That said, there are cases where CarFax will not let > you buy reports - > you have used it previously in the last 12 months or > ran too many > reports, etc. This has happened to me and to folks I > know. > > The last time I had a CarFax account (about 5 months > ago) and did an > admittedly un-scientific comparison with Experian's > http://www.autocheck.com/ service. A subscriber to > that service and I > exchanged VINs including some we knew were of > totalled and rebuilt > cars and wrecked ones. In every case except one, > Experian had the > same or more info as CarFax including one truck that > I KNOW was > salvage that CarFax said was clean. The one thing > AutoCheck missed was > a minor incident in a car I used to own - CarFax had > it, AutoCheck did > not. So the next time I am in the used car market, I > think I will > spend my $25 with AutoCheck - you get 60 days (not > 30) of unlimited > reports and hopefully none of the CarFax "treat you > like a crook" > attitude you can get if you run too many reports or > a variety of cars. > > So if CarFax will not sell you a report, try > AutoCheck. And by all > means, do the pre-purchase inspection you are > planning. > > Dennis ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:52:18 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, uuc Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Need Carfax and shop info Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Harry White of First Class Automotive is a top class guy. I highly recommend this shop. I have no direct experience with The Car Shop, but if they're BIMRS members, they have to be serious about what they do. Brett Anderson KMS Matt Weimer wrote: > Group, > > I am in need of a Carfax report, if you can help > please email. > > I may need a pre-purchase inspection, anyone have any > experience with First Class Automotive or The Car > Place in Raleigh, North Carolina? Both are listed on > BIMRS.org. > > Thank you, > > Matt Weimer > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. > Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:16:49 -0600 From: "Dennis Wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: RE>OT: CHP Cracking down Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Quite often here, the LEOs "hide" in plan sight. They are literally sitting or standing on the side of road in plain sight for a mile or more away. Yet "somehow" they are able to pull folks over and write tickets. While I don't like going the limit, I can't muster any sympathy for those caught in such an open "trap". As you approach them it is like "look there is someone on the side of the road way ahead". Then "it looks like they are standing there". Then "it appears they are pointing something my way". Then "I think that is a LEO". Then beep-beep-beep the V1 goes off. Shame of me if they get me, since clearly I would have to be asleep at the wheel. I would not call in on someone just for speeding, but for unsafe driving otherwise I would. If you want to pass me going 90mph and you do it properly go for it. But if you are weaving in and out of traffic and causing other drivers to panic swerve and brake, then you have crossed the line from speeding to really unsafe driving. It is just that much worse when it is some big honking SUV or even a semi, the person blowing by you in a sports car may not be a skilled driver but at least their car could better handle driving at higher speeds. Dennis On 2/10/07, David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > you get caught speeding you totally deserve the ticket, after all, if you > were paying appropriate attention for your speed you would not have been > caught. > > Even more OT: You would not believe how quick people call in your car > description and license plate to the CHP for speeds over 90mph. These days ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:22:37 -0500 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Urban Myth ?? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 2/10/07 1:16 PM, "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone know the truth of this ? Yes, it's a hoary old urban legend. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 14:50:11 -0600 From: "Bill Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Urban myth, its been tossed about for a while, but not true. Snopes exposes it, I think. Bill M. > Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 12:05:07 -0600 > From: "Bill Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Senior Digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Uucdigest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> > Subject: Urban Myth ?? > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Anyone know the truth of this ?? > Or got any other solutions to resolving the dilemma ? > BP > > WHAT TO DO IF YOU GET A TRAFFIC TICKET: >>>This advice was sent by a retired State Farm agent! >>>This system has been tried and it works in every >>>state. >>>If you get a speeding ticket or went through a red >>>light, or whatever the case may be, you're going to >>>get points on your license and a surcharge on your >>>auto insurance. This is a method to insure that you DO >>>NOT get the points. >>>When you get your fine, send in a check to pay for it. >>>If the fine is $79.00 make the check out for $82.00, >>>some small amount over the fine. The system will then >>>have to send you back a check for the difference. >>>However, here is the trick: DO NOT CASH THE REFUND >>>CHECK! Throw it away! >>>Points are not assessed to your license until all >>>Financial Transactions are complete. If you do not >>>cash the check, then the transactions are NOT >>>complete. The system has received its money and is >>>satisfied and will no longer bother you. >>>This information comes from an unmentionable computer >>>company that sets up the standard databases used by >>>every state. >>>Send this to everyone you know. You never know when >>>they may need a break. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) > ********** > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:57:17 -0600 From: "Bill Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Brake light problems Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The other day my wife's '01 530i showed a brake light out. I got a new bulb out of my stock and put it in, still didn't work. I swapped sockets from side to side and the problem followed it, so I figured it wasthe socket and ordered a new one. Came in today and I put it in, still no go. I put another new bulb in, still nothing. I swapped sides again and it follows the swap. I put another new socket in just in case the first was defective, still doesn't work. What gives? Bill M. ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********