Hi James, 1) thanks for sending and email in this thread longer than mine, I was "worried" I had killed it... ;)
2) you say: > Of course, if we are willing to relax the requirement of validation and > curation, this could be a whole lot easier. In fact, there is already > an image deposition infrastructure in place! It is called TARDIS: > > http://tardis.edu.au/ > > Perhaps the best way forward would be for "the PDB" to introduce a new > field for one or more TARDIS ids in a PDB deposition? It would be > optional at the first, but no doubt required in the future. And Ethan has just beat me to this point, from the Tardis web site, first paragraph last sentence: "Storage was and remains federated, meaning the public index, TARDIS.edu.au contains no data itself and merely points to data stored in external labs and institutions." So is the raw data even public? In that sense I think what were supposed to adopt in European facilities is ODI's which link accordingly to the facilities own suppository, and how that is developed and where you put it is down to regional preferences. It can obviously be large, small, publicly accessible, shared between friends or private. To be effective it will need to be around for a long time. But to build on the success of model for the 'PDB' I would agree that someone should pay to have someone host this, and at least in the first instance make sure PDB structures have their raw data available and accessible to all. Tardis is in the right direction as a catalogue, ICAT in the EU is a simpler DB, ISPyB would need a bit of work to get data sharable through the interfaces, but I think it is a richer data structure. Standardisation of the data would also be good, its amazing what a simple word checker can do to your emails these days.... BTW we pay the equivalent to about a weeks beamtime on one beamline for 200TB a year data storage and access to it for the whole facility, and someone else to take the pain of hosting it.... Alun ___________________________________________________________ Alun Ashton, alun.ash...@diamond.ac.uk Tel: +44 1235 778404 Scientific Software Team Leader, http://www.diamond.ac.uk/ Diamond Light Source, Chilton, Didcot, Oxon, OX11 0DE, U.K.
