> Yes, it [Twitter/X] is quite unfiltered nowadays, but I actually like to have > things in the open whether I agree with them or not. It puts more > responsibility on the community and the community notes help with that.
This would be fine without algorithmic promotion of posts and accounts. But with a system that adjusts visibility of messages in a way that is both opaque and akin to a popularity contest, can we really expect the community to self-regulate? Guillaume On 6 Dec 2023, at 08:56, Robbie Joosten <robbie_joos...@hotmail.com<mailto:robbie_joos...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi David, Thank you for the Mastodon links. I like the idea of Mastodon, but many servers do blanket bans against other servers, particularly if these are very libertarian (e.g. have too much "Freeze Peach"). Your Mastodon 'heritage' seems to matter a lot. Nevertheless, it's good to see that engagement is growing. I find LinkedIn mostly useful for broadcasting, not really for engagement, so not really an X alternative. Personally, I think it is a shame so many scientists left Twitter/X (or said they did/would). Especially if this is for activistic reasons. Yes, it is quite unfiltered nowadays, but I actually like to have things in the open whether I agree with them or not. It puts more responsibility on the community and the community notes help with that. Purely scientific posts don't seem to suffer from the new management and your timeline keeps having useful stuff as long if you actually engage with (not just follow) users of interest. I do use Twitter as a private person, not on behalf of my work. I wonder if that makes a difference to my experience. It is important to note that many X alternatives are not available in the EU to avoid regulations (says something about those platforms). That makes Mastodon and X the only real options. That is, far behind the CCP4bb. Cheers, Robbie -----Original Message----- From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> On Behalf Of David Briggs Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 08:19 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X Hi all, I did a little (and entirely unscientific) test on this with one of our recent papers. Views : Linkedin came out on top. Engagement from other scientists : Mastodon. X didn't really do much, last I checked. There is a structural biology community on Mastodon and there are several servers (a.k.a instances) that are science themed... at_struct_dot_bio at_mstdn_dot_science at_biologists_dot_social at_cryoEM_dot_social at_qoto_dot_org at_fediverse_dot_science Some suppliers are beginning to appear (e.g. Quantifoil) and there is a structural biology Mastodon group (struc...@a.gup.pe<mailto:struc...@a.gup.pe>) that acts a bit like a distribution list. Hth, Contact me off list if I can help get you started. Dave @xtald...@xtaldave.net<mailto:xtald...@xtaldave.net> (Apologies if anyone got this twice - the original was pinged back as it tripped the spam filter, presumably the list of servers) Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB Principal Laboratory Research Scientist Signalling and Structural Biology Lab The Francis Crick Institute London, UK == about.me/david_briggs<http://about.me/david_briggs> <http://about.me/david_briggs> ________________________________ From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> on behalf of Marc Graille <marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu<mailto:marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu>> Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 6:33:06 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> Subject: [ccp4bb] Alternatives to X External Sender: Use caution. Dear colleagues, I take advantage of Tim's message about the fact that responsible people have resigned from X. I really enjoyed Twitter (which I discovered rather late) because it was a great tool for announcing news from my laboratory, but also for keeping abreast of recent publications or pre-publications related to my research interests. I notice that many scientists have deserted X in recent months. Can anyone suggest user-friendly alternatives used by the scientific communities to announce recent publications or news in their fields? Best wishes, Marc — Marc GRAILLE, PhD DR1-CNRS Laboratoire de Biologie Structurale de la Cellule (BIOC; Ex-Laboratoire de Biochimie) UMR7654 du CNRS Head of the team: “Translation and degradation of eukaryotic mRNAs” ÉCOLE POLYTECHNIQUE 91128 PALAISEAU CEDEX FRANCE 📞: +33 (0)1 69 33 48 90 : marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu<mailto:marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu> <mailto:marc.grai...@polytechnique.edu> / Twitter : @GrailleLab <https://twitter.com/GrailleLab> https://portail.polytechnique.edu/bioc/en/research/coupling-between- translation-and-mrna-degradation-eukaryotes — Le 2 déc. 2023 à 10:15, Tim Grüne <tim.gru...@univie.ac.at<mailto:tim.gru...@univie.ac.at> <mailto:tim.gru...@univie.ac.at> > a écrit : Hi Mark, responsible people are resigning from X. Cheers, Tim Am 01.12.2023 23:24, schrieb Mark J. van Raaij: just came across this critique of that paper on Twitter: This exciting paper shows AI design of materials, robotic synthesis. 10s of new compounds in 17 days. But did they? This paper has very serious problems in materials characterisation. In my view it should never have got near publication. Hold on tight let's take a look 😱 [1] Robert Palgrave (@Robert_Palgrave) on X [1] twitter.com<http://twitter.com/> <http://twitter.com/> [1] but I'm not enough of an expert to judge - perhaps some characterizations were wrong and a lot of the paper does stand. On 1 Dec 2023, at 20:51, Bryan Lepore <bryanlep...@gmail.com<mailto:bryanlep...@gmail.com> <mailto:bryanlep...@gmail.com> > wrote: Adding to that literature list a bit outside : Merchant, A., Batzner, S., Schoenholz, S.S. _et al._ Quote: "... we show that graph networks trained at scale can reach unprecedented levels of generalization, improving the efficiency of materials discovery by an order of magnitude. 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