Thanks Mike.  That's great to know.  I suspected I might see a hairline
crack there next fall if I just filled and faired it.

On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:43 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Dave
>
>
>
> Had a Hinterhoeller Niagara 26 that had this problem (built by George
> Hinterhoeller who was likely the production head at C&C when yours was
> built). Also had a J Boats J27 with same problem.
>
>
>
> Torque the keel bolts.  Simple to do with the only issue being finding the
> correct sized deep sockets (there were three sizes on the Niagara).  Then
> do as Bob and others suggest and grind out along the crack and fair.
>
>
>
> I did the fairing several times on each boat.  The smile was not an issue
> on either but the annual crack in the faired area along the smile bugged
> me. I tried fairing with several products over the years including 3M
> Premium Marine filler, West epoxy with 407 filler, West G-Flex with 407
> etc…  Always the crack in the fairing returned after one or two seasons.
> Finally at the advice of others on this and other lists I ground out a
> little more and wrapped with 3 layers 6 oz cloth and west epoxy and then
> faired.  Never saw the smile again …  The part of the repair that was time
> consuming was only waiting for the epoxy to cure so that it could be
> sanded.  Simple but effective repair
>
>
>
> And of course as stated here numerous times already … the smile is not a
> problem at all if the bolts are torqued
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> Doyle via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 7:29 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Ryan Doyle
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C "smile" plus small separation
>
>
>
> Thanks for your reply Dave.  Love the blog.  Yes water ingress is
> certainly a concern, but I have not noticed any rust bleeding out. I'm
> wondering if I should wait until spring when I paint to torque the bolts.
> Or do you think there's a risk of water ingress over the winter?  I'm in
> NY, so she will freeze.  Any thoughts on the timing of when I tighten
> them?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
> wrote:
>
> All I did on my boat was get a big socket wrench and tighten the bolts.
>
> Others will chip in soon with more involved repairs.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
> C&C 35 MK I
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan
> Doyle via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, December 07, 2015 4:10 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Ryan Doyle
> *Subject:* Stus-List C&C "smile" plus small separation
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm brand new to the list here and I'm not quite sure how this list works
> yet... But I'm excited to join because I'm the proud new owner of a 1976
> C&C 30 mki.
>
> My boat is hauled for the winter and is exhibiting the much-talked-about
> C&C "smile" at the front of the keel, but there is also a hairline
> separation from the hull at the very aft section of the keel that extends
> for about 6" from the aft of the keel forward.  This separation is such
> that if I kneel down and peer at it at just the right angle, I am able to
> see light on the other side.  I am concerned.
>
> I have a survey from 2014.  And there is no mention of the keel.  It only
> states, "...The vessel was observed on stands.  A bottom examination was
> conducted.  No structural deformities were noted.  Running gear is in
> acceptable condition..." etc. etc.
>
> Some photos of my keel are available at the links below.  If anyone has
> some insight/experience into what I'm seeing I'd love to hear it.  Thanks
> so much and excited to be a part of the forum.
>
>
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8g8d5sXYVWGc2xDZXpBS3A5MEMtdE5YdlRPQVZhWTFGWmNN/view?usp=sharing
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8g8d5sXYVWGa1RYX0p1dTFQWjk2UDVDdmhURmkzRXJZNjAw/view?usp=sharing
>
>
>
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