Hi Ron, Thanks for the words of caution. We are definitely balancing the size situation and appreciate a 40 will be over 5X larger than our 23 and would love the opportunity to sail on one prior to purchasing if that were an option.
I'm selling a 40' diesel motorhome that costs us an arm and a leg in repairs and maintenance (~$5000 in just the past few weeks) in exchange for this "money pit" but would be very interested in what your annual cost may have been. I've been building a spreadsheet to estimate annual costs especially now that we will be paying for a slip. Thanks, Jeff On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:11 PM rjcasciato--- via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello Jeffrey......first, welcome to the list....most of us on the C&C > list will keep our boats to the "end", unless we're upgrading to a larger > C&C. > I own a 77' 38MKII, hull #125. I've owned Impromptu for 23 years.... > Your decision to get into a big "old" boat needs careful assessment of > your finances and the amount of work you are willing to do.....virtually > none of us here don't work to keep our boats sailing like they were built... > You don't want to know how much money that chews up in 23 years... > BUT, IMPROMPTU LOOKS LIKE IT JUST CAME OUT OF THE MOLD YESTERDAY.... > and sails way better than it did when it left Canada for Chicago in 1977. > My wife doesn't do wind, sun, and noise.... > So this 38 MKII races....hard and well with a seasoned crew of 6. > I don't suggest you think about that until later when you have enough > crew.... > Speaking of crew.....are you planning to sail the 40 with only you and > your wife???? Things are much bigger on a 40 than on an ODay 23.....the > mast alone approaches twice the height..... > I would be glad to share some of the "annual base costs" for you to > consider.... > My opinion is that the 35 should be big enough for this next move....and > cruisable in "nice" weather for two.... > I'd be interested in some of the veteran C&C'ers opinion and what are some > of the comparative issues of making this big jump. > Something to consider......the guy who designed my 38 and all of those > 40's, and all of the rest of the good years C&C's drives a 34......think > about that first.... > Making a move away from the ODay is a no brainer.....just you and your > wife sail a 40 first....with safety crew sitting by. > Again, welcome to this group.....we all love our C&C's. > Ron C. > IMPROMPTU > C&C 38MKIIC > 1977....#125 > > Sent from Xfinity Connect Application > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: bride...@gmail.com > Sent: 2020-07-20 5:38:36 PM > Subject: Stus-List New-guy C&C 40 Shopping questions > > Allow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before I > introduce our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small craft for 35+ > years but this will be our first adventure in something no-longer > trailerable. I and my wife are shopping for an upgrade in size from our > O'Day 23-2 and are attracted to the C&C line of boats given our budget, the > perceived quality, performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the > local market. We started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it) > but after looking at a few 35' boats locally we are realizing they may > still be a bit small for our rapidly growing family of four (and trucking > and bottom painting a boat from VT to NH/ME seacoast adds a lot of costs), > we have started looking at some C&C 40 boats in MA/RI area. I'm not afraid > of some small projects that can be carried out while we use it or in the > offseason but not interested in a "project boat" that would need work to > be safe before use. > > > https://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=3558367&checked_boats=3558367&hosturl=MattapoisettYachtSales&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=81236&url= > https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1981-c-c-tall-rig-7442829/ > > Now for the questions: > > We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one we saw > in the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are both on the hard, > and the one we briefly visited is a centerboard version. The other is a > tall-rig/deep-keel. See the photos linked. > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xUVbSnHMob2YmYP8 > > 1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge drain or > a centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a piece of wood, > loose inside the drain that I could move with a finger. > 2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch that > I've not seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard pendant perhaps? > 3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports reasonable or > expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests it was somewhat > recently serviced. > > Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot log > sensors have been painted over with antifoul despite being listed in the > description as features. Gelcoat seems good for its age. > > We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are > targeting in Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to accommodate a 7.5' > keel at low tide. However, fewer moving parts is a huge advantage as is > better sailing performance. But, we might be forced into a less > desirable marina or have a low tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going > from the marina. > > Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step situation > on either of these boats and apart from waterlogged cores in the deck and > hull, what are the critical points of interest to a new buyer that thinks > he is somewhat savvy. > > All polite thoughts welcomed. > > Best regards, > Jeff > _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for > supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly > appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send > contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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