That's an interesting idea.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 10:17 PM ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List <
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> I'm not familiar with how the pennant is attached, but I'm wondering
> whether you could fit a hydraulic cylinder in place of a winch. My backstay
> and vang are hydraulic, and they are so easy to tension.
>
> Alan Bergen
> 35 Mk III Thirsty
> Rose City YC
> Portland, OR
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 7:09 PM Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> If draft is an issue (or might be a future issue depending on your plans
>> for cruising, etc.) I would consider the cb model.
>>
>> I have a 36 XL/kcb (your 40 ft C&C is actually a kcb since the cb
>> retracts into a serious keel, unlike some cb boats that have boards only or
>> very small keels) since I sail in the skinny NC sounds where a 5 ft draft
>> is often the rule in marinas, not the exception.
>>
>> I Replace the pennant every 5 or so years and otherwise forgetaboutit!.
>> Upwind, board down, it will point with or better than any others and
>> downwind, board up, it will get up and go! OTOH, it likely has a weighted
>> board which probably weighs over 1000 lbs. Unless you are racing, grinding
>> the board up is not an easy job—I use a Lewmar 30 with 3:1 purchase AND my
>> strongest crew to bring her up. Of course, as some have noted, it is a
>> simple matter to pin it up permantly.
>>
>> Of course the kcb won’t be as fast as a deep keel of the same model (lots
>> more wetted surface than a fin) but there probably isn’t any harbor in
>> NH/ME that you could not get into, even at low tide, with the board up.
>>
>> Welcome to the list!
>>
>> Charlie Nelson
>> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
>> Water Phantom
>>
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>> On Monday, July 20, 2020, Jeffrey Brideau via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Allow me to first apologize for any ignorance we may suffer before I
>> introduce our situation. I've been sailing all sorts of small craft for 35+
>> years but this will be our first adventure in something no-longer
>> trailerable.  I and my wife are shopping for an upgrade in size from our
>> O'Day 23-2 and are attracted to the C&C line of boats given our budget, the
>> perceived quality, performance/comfort reputation, and availability in the
>> local market. We started eyeing a 35-3 in VT (and may still consider it)
>> but after looking at a few 35' boats locally we are realizing they may
>> still be a bit small for our rapidly growing family of four (and trucking
>> and bottom painting a boat from VT to NH/ME seacoast adds a lot of costs),
>> we have started looking at some C&C 40 boats in MA/RI  area. I'm not afraid
>> of some small projects that can be carried out while we use it or in the
>> offseason but not interested in a "project boat"  that would need work to
>> be safe before use.
>>
>>
>> https://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?slim=broker&boat_id=3558367&checked_boats=3558367&hosturl=MattapoisettYachtSales&&ybw=&units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=81236&url=
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>> https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1981-c-c-tall-rig-7442829/
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>>
>> Now for the questions:
>>
>> We have scheduled the two 40's above for a visit next weekend, one we saw
>> in the boatyard without invitation this weekend. They are both on the hard,
>> and the one we briefly visited is a centerboard version. The other is a
>> tall-rig/deep-keel.  See the photos linked.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/7xUVbSnHMob2YmYP8
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>>
>> 1. On this boat, what is the drain in the keel for? Is it a bilge drain
>> or a centerboard trunk vent? There was something, perhaps a piece of wood,
>> loose inside the drain that I could move with a finger.
>> 2. On cabin top starboard, there appears to be a wire cable winch that
>> I've not seen on other examples. Is this the centerboard pendant perhaps?
>> 3. Is the weeping from the centerboard pivot access ports reasonable or
>> expected. It may be lubricant as the broker suggests it was somewhat
>> recently serviced.
>>
>> Notes: The "smile" needs addressing but seems dry. Depth and knot log
>> sensors have been painted over with antifoul despite being listed in the
>> description as features. Gelcoat seems good for its age.
>>
>> We are leaning towards the centerboard model as the Marina we are
>> targeting in Portland, ME has limited areas of draft to accommodate a 7.5'
>> keel at low tide. However, fewer moving parts is a huge advantage as is
>> better sailing performance. But, we might be forced into a less
>> desirable marina or have a low tide +/- 1hr time block for coming or going
>> from the marina.
>>
>> Last general question and ask for advice, what is the mast step situation
>> on either of these boats and apart from waterlogged cores in the deck and
>> hull, what are the critical points of interest to a new buyer that thinks
>> he is somewhat savvy.
>>
>> All polite thoughts welcomed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jeff
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