This more about my thoughts. With masthead rig backstay tightens forestay but causes major problems with main. Some like cc33 fix with baby stay and others with check stay. The check stay fixes a lot of this but adds extra work and complexities on tacking. Is totally different than running backstays imo.
We rarely ever run checks although I suspect with great crew they would really help mainsail trim Mike Prrsistence www.hoytsailing.com ________________________________ From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: July 23, 2021 9:54:37 PM To: Stus-List Cc: Andrew Burton Subject: Stus-List Re: Wire vs. Dyneema check stays I just finished splicing some dyneema for the running backstays for my Baltic 47. I assume that's what you are calling check stays. So yes, I think Dyneema's a much better option than wire. We use the boat mostly for coastal cruising, occasional ocean racing, and occasional ocean passages. Just FYI check stays are the lower running backstays. On a Star, the running backstays control headstay tension while the checks control mast bend and are an integral part of sail trim. On our boats the runners stop the inner forestay from bending the mast too much when we are using a staysail and also stop the mast pumping when we are beating in waves (which is my most common use). We use the backstay for headstay tension and the runners can stop the backstay from bending the mast too much. Andy Baltic 47 Masquerade Formerly of C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:45 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Do you actually use these? Our frers 33 has check stays and although they help with main shape we rarely use them due to added complications tacking etc Mike Peraiatence Halifax ________________________________ From: cenelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Sent: July 23, 2021 9:26:54 PM To: Stus-List Cc: cenelson Subject: Stus-List Wire vs. Dyneema check stays I have decided to replace my standing rigging on Water Phantom, my now 26 yr old 1995 C&C XL/kcb. The rigger has recommended staying with a rod replacement vs. wire to better match the rod fittings, esp. at the mast head and to save money. He also recommends going with dyneema, instead of wire, for the check stays. My concern is uv damage to the dyneema which I understand has been a problem with using it vs. wire. His response is that the early coatings used to protect dyneema led to short lifetimes but that the newer coatings have solved that problem. OTOH, my wire check stays are still fine “…after all these years…” My question is should I go with dyneema for the checks or stay with new wire assuming the costs are similar? Thanks, Charlie Nelson Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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