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Eric Evans commented on CASSANDRA-2474: --------------------------------------- bq. But wishing for an alpha-release API to be 100% stable is a level of fantasy that requires either much more optimism or a much larger ego to think that you got it THAT right on your first try without ever building anything substantial on it first, than I'm capable of generating. And we really are talking alpha here; beta implies feature completness, or close to it. Getting back to expectations, where was the expectation set that CQL was alpha-release? I know I'm not the only one who missed that memo. Granted, it's not feature-complete, but what is? Cassandra isn't feature-complete either (or we wouldn't still be adding features). bq. The users I've talked see clearly that although the ultimate goal does include stability, an incomplete API is simply not ready to deliver on that. Which is why you see the overwhelming majority of development still done on "classic" clients like Hector and pycassa. (And which is why I'm pushing hard to make CQL3/1.1 feature complete. I do want CQL to succeed, but I'm realistic about where it stands today.) Are you saying that after CQL3/1.1, that people can expect some level of stability? I would of course love to see a "Yes", but pretending that the need to add or make changes won't continue, and the arguments about backward compatibility being Hard won't continue to be relevant, require much more optimism than I'm capable of generating. And to be clear, when I talk about setting expectations for stability, I don't mean "No Changes, Ever". Like I said, I understand there is a balance to strike. But, other than assuming breakage and being pleasantly surprised if you dodge a bullet, what can our users expect today? bq. Jake and Sylvain's proposal sounds like the only way we're going to be able to deliver the remaining features we need while still maintaining a compatibility escape hatch for applications built on early CQL version. But let's be clear: past 1.1, anyone who wants the old cql package maintained is going to need to roll up his sleeves and pitch in, because the rest of us have plenty of things to spend our time on that are more valuable to the community as a whole. I think this an excellent idea, especially if we're very clear that CQL3 is volatile. When the time comes that we're willing to commit to something, we should be clear about that too. Bonus points if we can make a 2->3 transition reasonable, or at least reasonably documented. And, even if the number of CQL <= 2.0 users is small enough to be considered acceptable collateral damage, an orderly transition like this will go a long way toward showing everyone that we're trying not to burn them. > CQL support for compound columns and wide rows > ---------------------------------------------- > > Key: CASSANDRA-2474 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-2474 > Project: Cassandra > Issue Type: New Feature > Components: API, Core > Reporter: Eric Evans > Assignee: Sylvain Lebresne > Priority: Critical > Labels: cql > Fix For: 1.1 > > Attachments: 0001-Add-support-for-wide-and-composite-CFs.patch, > 0002-thrift-generated-code.patch, 2474-transposed-1.PNG, > 2474-transposed-raw.PNG, 2474-transposed-select-no-sparse.PNG, > 2474-transposed-select.PNG, cql_tests.py, raw_composite.txt, > screenshot-1.jpg, screenshot-2.jpg > > > For the most part, this boils down to supporting the specification of > compound column names (the CQL syntax is colon-delimted terms), and then > teaching the decoders (drivers) to create structures from the results. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. If you think it was sent incorrectly, please contact your JIRA administrators: https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ContactAdministrators!default.jspa For more information on JIRA, see: http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira