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http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13201 Remove default log4j configuration ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2002-10-23 02:52 ------- I didn't mean that log4j in an application couldn't be used without a root logger configured. That's well within scope for log4j and a self contained application. But what should the semantics be for an application that uses a component that uses commons-logging that doesn't have a root appender configured? When the component goes to log, it will get an unconfigured category, and will generate errors. It might not even be the component that's of interest to the application. e.g. httpclient may use collections, which uses logging. By leaving log4j unconfigured, we force the application to become interested in logging. And removing log4j is not always feasible. It may be present to support other apps that are interested in logging. Getting log4j warnings just because you start using a commons component seems wrong. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:commons-dev-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:commons-dev-help@;jakarta.apache.org>