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James Strachan wrote:
Jon, Paul - this is all seeming a little painful to make useful progress working within Jakarta Commons. Adding 1 non-apache committer to a sandbox project seems too hard right now - we're stuck in a chicken and egg - some don't want non-apache committers working in the sandbox and some don't want us promoting a project to commons proper so we can add a new committer.
Why don't we just scrap commons-attributes in the sandbox and move the project over to codehaus.org instead? Its certainly the easiest option.
On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 10:16 am, Martin Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, James Strachan wrote:
So that we can add some more committers to the commons-attributes projects to help unify the various attribute-replated projects out there (initially commons-attributes and Nanning but maybe eventually attrib4j too) I'd like to propose we promote commons-attributes to the commons proper. Then we can work on merging the code bases and patches and working towards an alpha release.
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Vote: Promote commons-attributes to commons proper
[ ] +1 I am in favor of the move, and will help support it
[ ] +0 I am in favor of the move, but am unable to help support it
[ ] -0 I am not in favor of the move
[X] -1 I am against this proposal (must include a reason).
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It seems to me that this is entirely the converse of what Apache is about.
The suggestion here is that a project be promoted out of the sandbox in
order to build a community around it. That is the *opposite* of what we
want to achieve.
If the participation of people currently outside of Apache is necessary to
build a community around commons-attributes, then this is a project that
should be developed further elsewhere, and perhaps (re-)introduced to the
Incubator when that community exists.
-- Martin Cooper
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