--- "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Howdy,
> +1, and it seems like the final list was already in Senor Waldhoff's
> original email...

That was the proposed list.  I was just saying that people may object to
being removed and it may take a while to get to the final list.

David

> 
> Yoav Shapira
> Millennium ChemInformatics
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 12:43 PM
> >To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> >Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] emeritus committers?
> >
> >+1 though I suspect determining the final list to remove will take a
> >while.
> >
> >David
> >
> >--- Rodney Waldhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> There is a perception in some circles that Jakarta as a whole, and
> >> Jakarta
> >> Commons in particular, is too large for sufficient PMC oversight.
> In
> >> my
> >> opinion, particularly with respect to Jakarta Commons, this is not
> the
> >> case, but one way to combat that perception is to recognize that
> >> although
> >> the CVS avail file lists 72 committers for the jakarta-commons
> >> repository
> >> (see
> http://cvs.apache.org/~rwaldhoff/jakarta/jakarta-committers.html),
> >> not all of those folks are actively working in Jakarta Commons
> anymore.
> >> Removing inactive committers from the avail file (and naming them
> >> emeritus
> >> committers) is one way to recognize that fact.
> >>
> >> The jakarta guidelines state "At times, Committers may go inactive
> for a
> >> variety of reasons. A Committer that has been inactive for 6 months
> or
> >> more may lose their status as a Committer. Getting access back is as
> >> simple as re-requesting it on the project's Developer mailing list."
> >> <http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html>
> >>
> >> The following 16 folks are listed in the CVS avail file, but have not
> >> made
> >> any commits in the past year (since 13 Nov 2002):
> >>
> >> amamment - Arun Mammen Thomas
> >> arron - Arron Bates
> >> conor - Conor MacNeill
> >> dsale - Doug Sale
> >> dwinterfeldt - David Winterfeldt
> >> hammant - Paul Hammant
> >> husted - Ted Husted
> >> jariw - jariw AT hyperlink-interactive DOT co DOT uk
> >> jefft - Jeff Turner
> >> marcsaeg - Marc Saegesser
> >> mas - Michael Smith
> >> nacho - Ignacio J. Ortega
> >> noel - Noel J. Bergman
> >> paulo - Paulo Gaspar
> >> serge - Serge Knystautas
> >> vmassol - Vincent Massol
> >>
> >> It may be that some of these folks have been "active" in non-CVS
> ways,
> >> for
> >> instance, by posting to the commons-user or commons-dev lists, I
> haven't
> >> checked (nor am I exactly sure how I could programmaticly check
> that).
> >>
> >> Removing those 16 would reduce the number of active committers to 56,
> a
> >> more that 20% reduction in the perceived size of jakarta-commons (by
> >> that
> >> metric at least).
> >>
> >> Just to clarify, I have no issues with any or all of those folks
> >> maintaining access to the jakarta-commons CVS module, nor is this
> some
> >> sort of judgment of a lack of activity (indeed there are a number of
> >> folks
> >> on that list that I have a lot of respect for).  Rather, this is a
> >> recognition that those folks have moved on for the time being and an
> >> attempt to make the perceived size of Jakarta Commons more accurately
> >> reflect the reality of the matter.  As the guidelines state, a simple
> >> post
> >> to commons-dev would be all that is needed to restore direct CVS
> access
> >> and reverse the inactive status.
> >>
> >> The Proposal:
> >>
> >> Unless anyone on that list wants to declare themselves "active" right
> >> now
> >> (or someone else can vouch for some sort of commons related activity
> in
> >> the past year or so), let's invoke that paragraph of the jakarta
> >> guidelines and declare these folks "inactive" committers.
> Specifically,
> >> let's:
> >>
> >> (1) remove those folks from the avail file and
> >>
> >> (2) add an "emeritus committers" page (or section of some existing
> page)
> >> to the jakarta-commons website that acknowledges their contributions
> and
> >> indicates the mechanism by which they can once again get CVS access.
> >>
> >> --
> >> - Rod <http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/>
> >>
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