If you could put your refactorings in a branch, that would be very cool (easier to merge from / to head). My time is limited too (I am moving in a couple of weeks), but I'll see if I can find the time to get some betwixt work done. Maybe an update on IRC ?
Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2004-01-05 at 22:19, robert burrell donkin wrote: > i've now realized that releasing the alpha was a major mistake: it > should have been a 0.1 release. it's reasonable solid as far as it > goes. > > the problem is that the code needs a *lot* of refactoring before the > functionality that consider the minimal for a full release can be > added. there's also going to be a lot of deprecated code that will need > to be removed before it's ready. this means that probably one or two > minor 0.x releases would be needed. (a secondary issue is that now i'm > not on the pmc i don't feel able to cast binding vote on legally > important issues or cut releases so even if the work was done, someone > else would need to act as release manager.) > > i've been working on a major refactoring of betwixt for a long time now > but i've also got a number of local versions with extra bits and pieces > in. unfortunately, too much of my time has been taken up with jakarta > stuff in the last few months and i haven't been able to sort out this > mess :( > > now that i've finished with that, i should have more coding time :) > > i've made some progress on the refactoring recently but i've neglected > a lot of other projects i'm interested in and have a lot of catching up > to do. > > realistically i'm not going to be in a position to put the refactored > stuff in cvs for a while yet. (i'm very committed to backwards > compatibility and the final details of the design aren't clear in my > mind yet though the broad outline is). if there's interest from other > committers i could think about tidying the refactored stuff up and > putting it into a branch so that we can talk about the design. > > - robert > > On 29 Dec 2003, at 14:38, Tim O'Brien wrote: > > > Understood. I'm in the same boat as you. > > > > Let me know if you need any release support. In the meantime, if you > > find > > yourself overburdened, let's start delegating. > > > > I'm surprised that we have enough time to talk about all these > > philosophical J-C vs. A-C issues, or even debating author tags when > > something as important as Betwixt sits in an Alpha for so long. > > > > Tim > > > > > > On 29 Dec 2003, Martin van den Bemt wrote: > > > >> Hi Tim, > >> > >> On my part that almost all my "resources" go to my gui framework xulux > >> on codehaus, my work, my newly acquired family and preparation for my > >> new house. I try to organize a "betwixt" night so now and then, but > >> that > >> is hardly enough time to get a new release out the door. > >> Robert is probably busy (or on a holiday?) and James has moved on to > >> other projects. > >> So currently betwixt is a bit asleep and wakes up so know and then > >> when > >> I can schedule a betwixt night. > >> > >> Mvgr, > >> Martin > >> > >> On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 19:55, Tim O'Brien wrote: > >>> Betwixt is a very useful component, and a number of people would > >>> like to > >>> start using it in production systems. > >>> > >>> Could someone give a quick update as to why Betwixt is still at a 1.0 > >>> alpha? and, also provide a timeline for a 1.0 release. > >>> > >>> Tim > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > -- > > ---------------------- > > Tim O'Brien > > Evanston, IL > > (847) 863-7045 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mvgr, Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]