On Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:13:32 +0200, Emmanuel Bourg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ricardo Gladwell wrote: > > Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > > >> Excluding LGPLed projects is just a political decision imho. > >> > >> Emmanuel Bourg > > > > > > Sorry for sounding newbie about this, but what exactly are the political > > difficulties to hosting LGPL and ASL projects on the apache.org domain. > > Does the ASF and the FSF not get along?
To answer Richard's question (didn't see it) I think the only political difficulty is the usual 'Free-Software' vs 'Open-Source' one that has existed for a long time. Which links to Henning's point; we spend tonnes of time and effort on tiny matters on legal pedantics instead of coding. > The concept of the LGPL is quite clear for me, it's "do whatever you > want with your code, but if you change my LGPL code, you have to license > your modification under the LGPL". > > I agree the LGPL may be worded ambiguously with regard to Java programs, > but for Hibernate this ambiguity is clarified in the License FAQ. One > could say this FAQ has no legal value if it's not included in the actual > license, but it's not true. It's a promise made on the official site, > that's endorsed by the authors, that they will not consider this usage > as an infringement of their copyright, and this kind of promise has a > legal value in court, see "Promissory Estoppel" for more information. Now we're onto the IANAL stuff and ponderings on how to get such suggestions to a lawyer without it turning into an expensive 2 week Q&A. Can Promissory Estoppel (whatever that is) be given just on a website etc. For example, I'd love to see an ASF lawyer come up with a concise 'footnote' to the LGPL that we could ask Java LGPL users to add to their licences. Or just a 'promissory estoppel' that could be placed there. I agree that no one who has made their library LGPL does so for potential Java virality. Hen --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
