Re: 10/??/68

[Dave S]

When these Matrix 1968 shows circulated on cassette, ther were tons of 
mislabeled tapes out there.  Often times sides a and b would be reversed 
and there were a lot of compilations containing bits and pieces of 
several of these all mixed up and mislabled too.

The tapes you mentioned in you email look like more of those old 
mislabeled compilations.  I had many of them myself.  At one point I 
spent a lot of time going thru them and figuring out what was 
duplication of what.  Funniest one was the tape labeled as a Matrix 68 
tape that was really 2/13/70! (you know the electric set with Dark Star)

The low gen (probably 1st gen) reel to reel tapes that all our copies 
seem to trace back to were transfered to cdr a while back.  Those reels 
are owned by Bill Gadsden.  Bill and a guy named Peter Kafer made copies 
of Peter Abram's (owner of the Matrix) two track 7" Scotch reels in the 
summer of 1974. Peter Abram's reels were either Masters or 1st gens, so 
the reels that all our old tapes and now cds originate from are either 
1st or possibly 2nd gen.

Rather than transfereing your old cassettes, you might want to just grab 
the better copies available on Archive.org   Here are the links to the 
three October 1968 Matrix shows that people call the "Mickey and the 
Hartbeats" shows:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15524
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15549
http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15520
There is also this one which is from December 1968 at Archive.org which 
traces back to that also traces back to Bill G.'s reels:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=15551
Those shows can have some very boring moments as well as some pretty 
interesting parts to them.

Hope this info helps,
Dave S.

Daryn Roven wrote:
I've just spent some time on Deadlists and I can't find this show; I'm 
wondering if it's one of the non-circulated October 68 "Mickey & the 
Heartbeats" Matrix shows.  Two cassettes:

1a
Dark Star ->
Death Letter Blues
Fate Music (Jerry calls it this as they start)
1b
The Eleven ->
Death Don't Have No Mercy ->
Lovelight ->
Dark Star ->
Cosmic Charlie ->
2a
Cosmic Charlie
Lovelight ->
Drums ->
Jam (Other One tease) ->
2b
Death Don't Have No Mercy
Dark Star Jam
It's A Sin
Portions of cassette 2 look similar to a 10/9/68 setlist I've seen, but 
there are a lot of unexplained things as well.  I especially have seen 
no mention of Cosmic Charlie in conjunction with any Heartbeats shows.

Thanks for the list maintenance, and for your time.  I'm in the process 
of transferring these old cassettes to disk.

Daryn R.