I think qualifying shows as "advertised, not confirmed" is a good idea. People will be surprised how many 60s show that have been "On The List" for many years have no evidence supporting them save a long-ago poster. Even runs of shows often only have eyewitnesses for one or two nights, so we still don't know whether a final night was canceled, or an extra night added, or a late show and an early show were merged.
Deadlists is a resource that a wide variety of people look at. If we have more shows listed, even if they are (correctly) unconfirmed, we have a much greater chance of finding out about those shows, because people who went or know something about the show will recall it. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:28 PM, <charrymcl...@myfairpoint.net> wrote: > One other thing I'd suggest re: adding additional information, and with > all due respect to Dave Sorochty and his incredible sleuthing, but I think > we need to be careful to qualify shows that are listed solely based on ads > or posters. It's possible the show may not have actually occurred for any > number of reasons. Again, dead.net could be a useful resource for these > early shows since they often list attendees of the show who presumably can > be contacted via dead.net. > > > Iver > > > On Mon, 5 Aug 2013 22:02:08 -0400, Barb and Iver < > charrymcl...@myfairpoint.net> wrote: > > I would love to see this. And in the relatively few forays I've made over > to dead.net there appear to be quite a few show tales, especially for > many of the older shows, that would be fun to include. > > But I do like the current layout for each show so I'd be careful about > making it too cluttered. > > Iver > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 5, 2013, at 3:13 PM, "kevin" <ke...@shallwego.net> wrote: > > Personally, I’m in favor of adding lots of additional information that is > not actual performance set lists and recordings related, including at least: > > > - Canceled shows > > > - Rescheduled from dates > > > - Personal reviews > > > - Links to photos/media coverage of events > > > - Links to show information covered in blogs like Lost Live Dead > > > > These just have not been part of the data spec/scope of Deadlists. > > > > Facilitating the capture of this is simple – it’s the work involved with > getting the information into the database that requires ones time. > > > > Anyone **against** the idea of expanding the scope of Deadlists to this? > > > > Kevin > > > > *From:* owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu [ > mailto:owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu<owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu>] > *On Behalf Of *JGMF > *Sent:* Monday, August 05, 2013 11:00 AM > *To:* David Sorochty > *Cc:* te...@goodbear.com; Dead Lists > *Subject:* Re: new show: 4/17/67 Embassy Ballroom, Ambassador Hotel Los > Angeles, CA > > > > I'd love to see Deadlists use more complete bibliographic references when > noting things like show reviews. More transparency is better! In this case, > I have the reference as Diehl, Digby. 1967. Kaleidoscope Opens at Embassy > Room. Los Angeles Times, April 18, 1967, p. D10, in case you are interested. > > > > On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:19 AM, David Sorochty <skull_ro...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I posted this below to the list a while back but it is not online yet: > > > > > > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > > > Teddy - > > > What do you think of this below? It's combined from info I found as well > as from Corry Arnold's Lost Live Dead blog: > > > > > > Band Grateful Dead > > > Venue Embassy Ballroom, Ambassador Hotel > > > Location Los Angeles, CA > > > Date 4/17/67 - Monday posters tickets, passes & laminates > > > (posters to link to: " > http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19670414a.html"; and " > http://www.deadlists.com/posters/1960s/19670414b.html";) > > > Comments The Dead were supposed to play with Jefferson Airplane and Canned > Heat on April 14-16 at The Kaleidoscope on Vine Street. Those shows did not > take place, but were moved to the Embassy Ballroom in the Ambassador Hotel > on Monday the 17th. This venue was nicknamed the Banana Grove. An article > on the show appeared in the Los Angeles Times newspaper on April 18, 1967. > > > Download Sources > > > Recordings > > > Contributors David Sorochty , Corry Arnold > > > Caretaker Teddy Goodbear email update > > > > > > > > > > > >
