Incoming from Mattia Dongili:
> On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 06:02:10PM -0600, s. keeling wrote:
> > Incoming from Mattia Dongili:
> > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 04:07:36PM -0600, s. keeling wrote:
> > > > Package: cpufreqd
> > > > Version: 2.3.3-4
> > > > Severity: important
> > > >
> > > > Yo. This is an HP Pavilion dv4. I'm running fluxbox, CPU's barely
> > > > ticking over at 0-1%, yet this (it's presently at C 80):
> > > >
> > > > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > HP Pavilion is primary (AMD 64).
> > > ...
> > > > Bottom line: they're both using the ondemand governor, and cpu
> > > > freq. is set to lowest freq. cpu can run at. When demand hits,
> > > > cpufreqd ought to step cpu freq. to higher freq. to handle demand,
> > > > yes? All I see is cpu spiking to 100% usage, fan screams even faster,
> > > > and cpu temp. spikes towards C 90.
> > > >
> > > > Why doesn't it ever step the cpu freq. up to 2.10 or 1.05 GHz to
> > > > handle what 525 MHz is struggling with? Dunno.
> > >
> > > what kernel? if you uninstall cpufreqd does it get any better? have you
> >
> > Both of them are 2.6.32. I'll uninstall cpufreq* and report back.
> >
> > > tried changing cpufreqd configuration to match your needs?
> >
> > I've done what I can figure out, and verified w d-u (for what that's
> > worth).
>
> what is "w d-u"?
Sorry, jargon stinks. "... with debian-user ..." :-|
> One thing you may want to check is if the configuration is preventing
> higher freq/voltages when the cpu temperature is too high.
That's what I wonder. It never steps to higher freq. on high load.
What's holding it back? ondemand says it can / will do this.
Me, I suspect kernel & sensors support on AMD hardware's not yet quite
there.
> > Biggest prob. here is, once it spikes to C 100, it's not long til it
> > does a hard shutdown. Not good in mid-backup.
>
> well, sounds like you have worst problems than a software package not
> scaling up your cpu (how would that help with lowering the
> temperature?).
If 512MHz is struggling, turn on the jets until cpu's no longer
struggling, yes? What don't I understand? I just don't want my
machine going up in flames from struggling along at 512 MHz when it
could be doing 2.x GHz and getting it done, at least a !...@#$ of a lot
faster. I've never seen it kick up to a higher freq., and its
shutting down hard when hot is annoying. Not to mention imagined wear
and tear. Parts of the keyboard are too hot to touch at times.
Paint's blistering.
I did boot (for once) into Vista a few minutes ago, and it appears to run
pretty much the same temp. there ... Hmmm, ... Need to verify ...
Thanks for yor time, Mattia. :-)
> Anyway, see if not having cpufreqd around helps although I doubt it.
I've uninstalled cpufreq* and initial temp was C 81, now settled back
to C 75; box still not doing anything but X (fluxbox):
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PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND
2 ? S 0:00 [kthreadd]
3 ? S 0:00 \_ [migration/0]
4 ? S 0:00 \_ [ksoftirqd/0]
5 ? S 0:00 \_ [watchdog/0]
6 ? S 0:00 \_ [migration/1]
7 ? S 0:00 \_ [ksoftirqd/1]
8 ? S 0:00 \_ [watchdog/1]
9 ? S 0:00 \_ [events/0]
10 ? R 0:00 \_ [events/1]
11 ? S 0:00 \_ [cpuset]
12 ? S 0:00 \_ [khelper]
13 ? S 0:00 \_ [netns]
14 ? S 0:00 \_ [async/mgr]
15 ? S 0:00 \_ [pm]
16 ? S 0:00 \_ [sync_supers]
17 ? S 0:00 \_ [bdi-default]
18 ? S 0:00 \_ [kintegrityd/0]
19 ? S 0:00 \_ [kintegrityd/1]
20 ? S 0:00 \_ [kblockd/0]
21 ? S 0:00 \_ [kblockd/1]
22 ? S 0:00 \_ [kacpid]
23 ? S 0:00 \_ [kacpi_notify]
24 ? S 0:00 \_ [kacpi_hotplug]
25 ? S 0:00 \_ [kseriod]
28 ? S 0:00 \_ [kondemand/0]
29 ? S 0:00 \_ [kondemand/1]
30 ? S 0:00 \_ [khungtaskd]
31 ? S 0:00 \_ [kswapd0]
32 ? SN 0:00 \_ [ksmd]
33 ? S 0:00 \_ [aio/0]
34 ? S 0:00 \_ [aio/1]
35 ? S 0:00 \_ [crypto/0]
36 ? S 0:00 \_ [crypto/1]
248 ? S 0:00 \_ [kmmcd]
385 ? S 0:00 \_ [ksuspend_usbd]
388 ? S 0:00 \_ [khubd]
466 ? S 0:00 \_ [ata/0]
485 ? S 0:00 \_ [ata/1]
493 ? S 0:00 \_ [ata_aux]
565 ? S 0:00 \_ [scsi_eh_0]
568 ? S 0:00 \_ [scsi_eh_2]
569 ? S 0:00 \_ [scsi_eh_3]
575 ? S 0:00 \_ [scsi_eh_4]
576 ? S 0:00 \_ [scsi_eh_5]
579 ? S 0:00 \_ [scsi_eh_6]
581 ? S 0:00 \_ [scsi_eh_7]
726 ? S 0:00 \_ [usbhid_resumer]
1113 ? S 0:00 \_ [kmemstick]
1169 ? S 0:00 \_ [kpsmoused]
1171 ? S 0:00 \_ [edac-poller]
1249 ? S 0:00 \_ [hd-audio0]
1687 ? S 0:00 \_ [hd-audio1]
1918 ? S 0:00 \_ [phy0]
2089 ? S 0:00 \_ [flush-8:0]
2350 ? S 0:00 \_ [kconservative/0]
2351 ? S 0:00 \_ [kconservative/1]
1 ? Ss 0:00 init [2]
863 ? S<s 0:00 udevd --daemon
2081 ? Ss 0:00 /sbin/portmap -i 127.0.0.1
2411 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c3 -m 0
2431 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
2475 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/laptop-net/ifd
/usr/share/laptop-net/link-change eth0
2561 ? Ss 0:00 dictd 1.10.11: 0/0
2612 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/hddtemp -d -l 127.0.0.1 -p 7634 -s |
/dev/sg0 /dev/sda
2677 ? Ss 0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf
/var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
2711 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
2773 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/lib/postfix/master
2785 ? S 0:00 \_ pickup -l -t fifo -u -c
2786 ? S 0:00 \_ qmgr -l -t fifo -u
4308 ? S 0:00 \_ tlsmgr -l -t unix -u -c
2791 ? S 0:00 /usr/sbin/postfix-policyd -c
/etc/postfix-policyd.conf
2803 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/famd -T 0
2816 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u 108:113 -g
2828 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/hald
2829 ? S 0:00 \_ hald-runner
2849 ? S 0:00 \_ hald-addon-input: Listening on
/dev/input/event3 /dev/input/event8 /dev/input/event5 /dev/input/event4
/dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event6 /dev/input/event13 /dev/input/event1
/dev/input/event11 /dev/input/event9 /dev/input/event0
2852 ? S 0:00 \_ /usr/lib/hal/hald-addon-cpufreq
2866 ? S 0:00 \_ hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sr0 (every
2 sec)
2900 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/atd
2920 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
3539 tty1 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
3540 tty2 Ss 0:00 /bin/login --
4216 tty2 S 0:00 \_ -bash
4231 tty2 S+ 0:00 \_ /bin/bash /usr/bin/startx
4232 ? Ss 0:00 \_ ssh-agent startx
4249 tty2 S+ 0:00 \_ xinit /home/keeling/.xinitrc --
/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc :0 -auth /tmp/serverauth.iZrOxdwHUL
4250 tty7 Rs+ 0:06 \_ /usr/bin/X11/X -nolisten tcp
4257 tty2 S 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /home/keeling/.xinitrc
4264 tty2 S 0:17 \_ gkrellm -w
4265 tty2 S 0:00 \_ mrxvt -title mRXVt -sb -sk -sl
1000 -fg wheat -bg black -cr green -pr red -ls -vb -geometry 90x43+12+9 -fn
-Misc-Fixed-Medium-R-SemiCondensed--13-120-75-75-C-60-ISO10646-1 -ss xterm
-tnum 2
4276 pts/0 Ss 0:00 | \_ -bash
4487 pts/0 R+ 0:00 | \_ ps fax
4488 pts/0 S+ 0:00 | \_ less
4267 tty2 S 0:00 \_ xman -notopbox -bothshown
-geometry 618x623-63+16
4268 tty2 S 0:00 \_ xscreensaver
4271 tty2 S 0:00 \_ emacs -geometry 107x44-65+10
4274 tty2 S 0:01 \_ /usr/bin/fluxbox -log
/home/keeling/.fluxbox/log
3541 tty3 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
3542 tty4 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
3543 tty5 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
3544 tty6 Ss+ 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
4273 tty2 S 0:00 xconsole -file /dev/xconsole -daemon -notify
-exitOnFail -geometry 704x114-7-24
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