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Subject: roxen4-doc fails to install on its own, extremely bad packaging
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Package: roxen4-doc
Version: 4.0.325-2
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable (fails to install)

roxen4-doc failed to install, complaining that it did not know what database
to contact.  That sounded like obvious nonsense (I was installing the
*documentation*, not a database client, and besides it never asked me to
install or select any database whatsoever).  So I investigated further.

Here is the bunch of problems I found:

1. The packager has chosen to provide the documentation in the form of a
database file, which can only be read with special software.  This is
unacceptable in principle and in practice: Documentation must be readable
(and installable if in its own package) seperately from the act of running
the software being documented.  It must be possible to read the
documentation of various packages without having to run a different and
special program for each.  Debian contains and supports plenty of file
formats for this, a LOT of justification is needed to use a different format
in the binary .deb (except a redundant copy of the same text).

2. Launching or contacting daemons etc. from postinst in unexpected ways and
without warning (and without asking for positive user consent) is extremely
bad behaviour in terms of security and privacy.  This alone could justify a
grave bug on security grounds.

3. On top of all this, the package does not declare a dependency on the
packages it needs to even install, and displays an incorrect error message
when it sees that a different package (roxen4) is not configured.

I recommend that this package is completely redone or removed from the
archive.  *nothing* was apparently done right.


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Source: roxen4
Source-Version: 4.0.325-1.1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
roxen4, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

roxen4-doc_4.0.325-1.1_all.deb
  to pool/main/r/roxen4/roxen4-doc_4.0.325-1.1_all.deb
roxen4_4.0.325-1.1.diff.gz
  to pool/main/r/roxen4/roxen4_4.0.325-1.1.diff.gz
roxen4_4.0.325-1.1.dsc
  to pool/main/r/roxen4/roxen4_4.0.325-1.1.dsc
roxen4_4.0.325-1.1_i386.deb
  to pool/main/r/roxen4/roxen4_4.0.325-1.1_i386.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
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Format: 1.7
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:49:21 +0200
Source: roxen4
Binary: roxen4-doc roxen4
Architecture: source i386 all
Version: 4.0.325-1.1
Distribution: testing
Urgency: high
Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Changed-By: Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Description: 
 roxen4     - The Roxen Challenger Webserver
 roxen4-doc - Roxen 4.0 documentation
Closes: 309247
Changes: 
 roxen4 (4.0.325-1.1) testing; urgency=high
 .
   * Make sure that roxen4-doc depends on roxen4 since the documentation
     is in MySQL DB format _and_ only viewable through a Roxen4 server
     (because of Roxen specific RXML tags).
     Closes: #309247
Files: 
 34857a3b63da3364535188be7bf985b7 585 web optional roxen4_4.0.325-1.1.dsc
 8fef8e61f77c6ff4026a821c7cdad242 49886 web optional roxen4_4.0.325-1.1.diff.gz
 d4f4e5c9931e8844e6f6aae4db6a8587 3598918 doc optional 
roxen4-doc_4.0.325-1.1_all.deb
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roxen4_4.0.325-1.1_i386.deb

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