On 5/7/20 9:41 PM, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hi > > On 02-05-2020 21:53, Paul Gevers wrote: >> I don't think anybody likes to do it, but we have to discuss the >> architectures that will be part of bullseye. In the before last IRC >> meeting I promised I would send this mail, so here we go. Let's see what >> items we consider a must. Anybody else that wants to step in, feel free >> to take any action. >> >> 1) I haven't heard of new architectures that want to be on board for >> bullseye. >> >> 2) I think we have to ask several parties if they are OK with supporting >> the existing architectures: porters, DSA and security. I recall [1] DSA >> had issues with armel, but I believe that has been resolved by building >> on some other arm boxes, right? Do we already know of other issues? > > I found this mail from Niels from the buster release cycle [2]. Going > through it, it looks like it could be reused nearly completely. > >> 3) In the current state, I think it boils down to the question if armel >> and mipsel should be dropped for bullseye or not. What do we think >> ourselves? Myself, I've been regularly cursing mipsel for it being so >> much slower to build packages than most architectures, but I don't think >> that's enough ;). Also, the limited address space of 32 bit >> architectures is lowest on mipsel and it is starting to count. I've seen >> several issues due to it (e.g. rustc), meaning that maintainers of some >> large packages need to spend serious effort to build their package on >> mipsel. I feel that several maintainers seriously doubt that effort is >> well spent. > > The 32 bit issue was discussed for buster quite extensively.
There are now also attempts to package binutils64 and gcc-N-64 to build a 64bit toolchain on at least mipsel and i386. As a maintainer I'm not keen to add these builds to the binutils and gcc-N packages. In additions to the concerns in [2], there are also a bunch of mips* patches which are not yet integrated upstream in binutils and GCC. mipsel buildds also seem to be the slowest buildds among the buildds for release architectures. Matthias >> [1] https://release.debian.org/bullseye/arch_qualify.html > > Paul > > [2] https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2018/06/msg00644.html >