Petter Reinholdtsen [2018-10-16 15:55 +0200]: > [Benda Xu] > > I was about to reply to this thread, but you have completely expressed > > what I want to say: > > > > 1. systemd-shim is not necessary, even for DEs (except GNOME3). > > 2. sysvinit-core is very stable and do not need new uploads. > > Thank you for expressing so well the cause of the fate for sysvinit in > Debian. It seem clear its proponents believe everything is OK and no > effort is needed to save sysvinit. If this continues, sysvinit in > Debian will continue to rot and end up being removed. > > I know from maintaining the sysvinit set of packages that it require > work to maintain them. There are hundreds of open bugs against the > sysvinit packages in Debian already.
It's not only that. The sysvinit package *itself* doesn't actually do much really. That's not to downplay your past involvement there of course (e. g. developing insserv alone was a huge task), but the *real* maintenance is in all the packages that *ship* SysV init scripts. SysV init leaves all the really hard problems to these, as it cannot really do much by itself. That's a fact that people that keep yelling "but SysV init was so easy!" keep finessing.. So "how many RC bugs does sysvinit have" is a completely useless metric IMHO. Martin