aj wrote: > If you want other people to do things for you in Debian, you need them > to want to do it, you can't just go around trying to make life > unpleasant for them if they don't.
OK. What would make ftpmasters want to tell the rest of the project anything more about their work? I know some limits of volunteering. One of those limits is balancing wants of different volunteers. In my experience, the best approach is to have a shot at reconciliation, then get the disagreers apart. There's a nasty problem here if you won't ever agree: ftpmasters can affect all other active developers. DDs want know about ftpmasters, but ftpmasters don't send much to debian-devel-announce: it seems like mostly after stuff breaks. DDs don't know how to make them want to do anything, so that leaves three obvious options: 1. use democractic processes to fix this; 2. make their lives hell until they talk or quit; 3. telepathy. I don't like option 2. Option 1 could make it happen anyway. Option 3 is beyond most of us - if anyone can help, please do what I'm thinking. No, not goats. If ftpmasters say X would make us want to send/help send "Bits from ftpmasters" to d-d-a periodically, then it gets pretty easy to put out the flamers. This is all predictable and easy for ftpmasters to help avoid, isn't it? -- MJR/slef I wrote "debian-devel-annoy" first. M-x doctor, where are you? - I'm also off to take my own advice. Ahem. Thanks, debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]