On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 00:33:55 +0100, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 01:07:30AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> > Why don't I think it is a good idea? Well, because, >> > unlike >> > technical issues, social issues are very subjective. Also, >> > social and cultural norms differ widely from culture to culture; >> > which culture shall be represented in, and whose norms shall be >> > enforced by this social/cultural committee? >> >> That's easy: we should enforce (assuming that is not too strong a >> word) the social and cultural norms that we, as a community, agree >> on. The comparison to technical policy is not entirely invalid: we >> make up our technical policy ourselves, too. >> >> We can determine social policy by discussion and, if necessary, by >> voting. I'd rather see consensus, and, more specifically, see the >> soc-ctte spell out the social norms and if the developer body >> disagrees with it, and can't convince the soc-ctte via discussion, >> they can force a change via a GR. > Thanks for saving me from having to say all that. :) > The developer's reference, for example, includes several social > norms already - anything that isn't a strict technical obligation > but instead a matter of procedure and/or courtesy. But the dev-ref is optional -- last time I read it, I did not find it very useful tome, and I disagreed with a lot of its dictums, and so I largely ignore it while building packages; I rely on my sense of best practices. The tech ctte does not come down on me like a tonne of bricks for not removing the . from my short descriptions. > A code of conduct, if you will. The mailing lists have an explicit > code of conduct which is generally not enforced by any technical > measure but maintained by consensus (or at least diligence of those > who care, for the cynics among us ;). Those are some existing > documented topics that a social committee could keep an eye on; > there are also numerous matters relating to our day-to-day > interaction that go unnoticed because they're so "normal" to us, but > are indeed something that we would be wise to take care of. Frankly, a ctte that enforces things like the dev-ref scares the living daylights out of me. manoj -- "I am ... a woman ... and ... technically a parasitic uterine growth" Sean Doran the Younger Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]